Tren A/ Test P / Dbol short ester cycle

[ady]

Bro, I will break this shit down for you.
This is not a good first cycle.
1st: Loose the Tren, when the sides come up you'll have no idea what's causing it.
2nd: you should have lost your desired body fat before deciding to cycle, your blood pressure is going to have some problems.
3rd:the dbol is a disaster, I'm one of the only members on this board that isn't against running a 4 week dbol kickstart with your first cycle. But no more than 30-40mg and no longer than 4 weeks.
4th: test prop should not have been your choice, test e or cyp would have been much easier to deal with.
5th: you probably don't even need the anavar your receptors are so fresh you will feel great on test alone, and if your looking to lose body fat, the anavar won't help that, only diet will.
6th: Your PCT sucks. Front load and then tapered down Clomid and nolva. There's a million protocols.
7th: You need to understand the halflife of all the medication you are self prescribing. You cannot immidiatly start pct as you have it mapped out above, you have to wait for all the esters to clear your system (4 half lifes) or about 1.5-2 weeks for test prop I think.

Thanks for your sugestions brother. I will cut the orals for sure, unless my blood work liver enzimes are in the perfect range, but still is not the best option.

Why clomid and nolva at the same time? I will be taking HCG on the last 5-4 weeks before the last pin thus my guys will be more responsive, do you think both are better than just novla?

 

[doctor jones]

Thanks for your sugestions brother. I will cut the orals for sure, unless my blood work liver enzimes are in the perfect range, but still is not the best option.

Why clomid and nolva at the same time? I will be taking HCG on the last 5-4 weeks before the last pin thus my guys will be more responsive, do you think both are better than just novla?

This your first cycle? Right

 

[doctor jones]

Thanks for your sugestions brother. I will cut the orals for sure, unless my blood work liver enzimes are in the perfect range, but still is not the best option.

Why clomid and nolva at the same time? I will be taking HCG on the last 5-4 weeks before the last pin thus my guys will be more responsive, do you think both are better than just novla?

Thanks for your sugestions brother. I will cut the orals for sure, unless my blood work liver enzimes are in the perfect range, but still is not the best option.

Why clomid and nolva at the same time? I will be taking HCG on the last 5-4 weeks before the last pin thus my guys will be more responsive, do you think both are better than just novla?

Planning Clomid Dosage:
For the average PCT that includes Clomiphene Citrate generally 4-5 weeks of use will suffice. In many cases it is very advantageous to begin and complete a course of hCG use before Clomiphene therapy begins but it is not absolutely necessary. As mentioned a good Clomid dosage will normally begin at 150mg per day; some will need a little more but unfortunately this is something we cannot predict but 150mg is a good rule of thumb. For the majority this dosing will hold steady and then begin a slow decline until use is completely discontinued. At this point the individual will be relying strictly on his own natural production and while it will not be back to 100% after any PCT plan it will be on its way and much faster than if the PCT plan had not been implemented at all. A standard plan that can be useful to follow is provided so that you may see the adequate Clomid dosage on a per day basis for each week of use:

• Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
• Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
• Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
• Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
• Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day
  (add an extra week at 50mg per day if needed

 

[doctor jones]

Thanks for your sugestions brother. I will cut the orals for sure, unless my blood work liver enzimes are in the perfect range, but still is not the best option.

Why clomid and nolva at the same time? I will be taking HCG on the last 5-4 weeks before the last pin thus my guys will be more responsive, do you think both are better than just novla?

Nolvadex PCT use remains the most common purpose. Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) is a very important part of the anabolic steroid plan as this is the period after use is discontinued that allows the body to normalize; an important factor in maintaining good health as well as protecting gains made while on cycle. A plan based on a Nolvadex PCT can readily and efficiently produce the desired end very thoroughly and make ones experience not only more enjoyable but more effective as well.

The Basic Nolvadex PCT Plan:
In most cases a good Nolvadex PCT plan will run for approximately 4 weeks; in some cases 5-6 weeks may be needed but 4 weeks is a good general rule of thumb. Most will find a dosing of 40mg per day to be an efficient starting point with a tapering down as the week’s progress and then discontinuing altogether. The basic Nolvadex PCT plan should be as follows:

1. 
   Week
   1: 40mg every day Week
   2: 40mg every day Week
   3: 20mg every day Week
   4: 20mg every day

 

[Sk8man101]

Planning Clomid Dosage:
For the average PCT that includes Clomiphene Citrate generally 4-5 weeks of use will suffice. In many cases it is very advantageous to begin and complete a course of hCG use before Clomiphene therapy begins but it is not absolutely necessary. As mentioned a good Clomid dosage will normally begin at 150mg per day; some will need a little more but unfortunately this is something we cannot predict but 150mg is a good rule of thumb. For the majority this dosing will hold steady and then begin a slow decline until use is completely discontinued. At this point the individual will be relying strictly on his own natural production and while it will not be back to 100% after any PCT plan it will be on its way and much faster than if the PCT plan had not been implemented at all. A standard plan that can be useful to follow is provided so that you may see the adequate Clomid dosage on a per day basis for each week of use:

• Week 1: Clomid 150mg per day
• Week 2: Clomid 150mg per day
• Week 3: Clomid 100mg per day
• Week 4: Clomid 100mg per day
• Week 5: Clomid 50mg per day
  (add an extra week at 50mg per day if needed

150 is a lot man.. might get some sides.
To each his own though.

 

[doctor jones]

Well I hope what I posted helped atleast to have a better understanding

 

[doctor jones]

150 is a lot man.. might get some sides.
To each his own though.

It's not what I take, I'm trying to help him out so I did a lil digging for him and copied and pasted for him, I'm TRT

 

[ady]

Well I hope what I posted helped atleast to have a better understanding

Thanks bro, solid info

 

[doctor jones]

Thanks bro, solid info

I tried bro to help , doing a pct is very important

 

[doctor jones]

Plus I love this stack,

 

[ady]

Another week has passed.

I pinned in the delts and biceps, horrible, I could not train any of them for 2-3 days. I don't know if its because they were not used to the gear or if the muscles are to small and the inflammation is proportionally too big compared to the legs or chest.

I decided to change my workout routine, I feel like I am not exploiting all the aas potentials, I will go to the gym 5 times a week, and do more compound exercises.

Also, I have no gyno or bloating, but I was feeling really tired and even emotional as a woman in its period. I have increased aromasin to 25 mg ED, and I think things look better.

Also I have received Cardarine- GW 5015, so 20 mg a day. Let's see how it goes with this SARM.

Also I ordered Proviron, but they forgot to put it into the package, Mission labs will send it on Monday, so by next week I will include that and reduce aromasin to 12.5 ED.

I have put on a couple more pounds, 8 pounds in 3 weeks, but my metrics look quite the same:

Arms: 15.5"
Belly: 37"
Legs: 24"
Chest: 42.9"
Shoulders: 49"

180 lb

 

[ady]

Seems tren sides are starting to kick in, if I walk fast I run out of breath. Today I gave a presentation and had to stop talking to breathe in. Also found out that some times at night I wake up cold and I realized that is because my t-shirt is wet and cold from sweating.

I am getting a bit paranoid with testicle shrinkage, I have HCG for the last 4 weeks in which I will take 500iu 2x week. It will be left 1000 iu, I was thinking divide it in 200iu shots and take it once a week to stimulate my guys. I know that the size will come back after the cycle, but what if in the way some cells die and my test levels decrease more. Any thoughts? is 200iu a week do some stimulation?

 

[Wunderpus]

Another week has passed.

I pinned in the delts and biceps, horrible, I could not train any of them for 2-3 days. I don't know if its because they were not used to the gear or if the muscles are to small and the inflammation is proportionally too big compared to the legs or chest.

I decided to change my workout routine, I feel like I am not exploiting all the aas potentials, I will go to the gym 5 times a week, and do more compound exercises.

Also, I have no gyno or bloating, but I was feeling really tired and even emotional as a woman in its period. I have increased aromasin to 25 mg ED, and I think things look better.

Also I have received Cardarine- GW 5015, so 20 mg a day. Let's see how it goes with this SARM.

Also I ordered Proviron, but they forgot to put it into the package, Mission labs will send it on Monday, so by next week I will include that and reduce aromasin to 12.5 ED.

I have put on a couple more pounds, 8 pounds in 3 weeks, but my metrics look quite the same:

Arms: 15.5"
Belly: 37"
Legs: 24"
Chest: 42.9"
Shoulders: 49"

180 lb

Brave. Bicep pins suck, right? They get better, but it's far from preferable. Delts shouldn't be too bad, maybe you're putting in too much oil, or something?

 

[ady]

Brave. Bicep pins suck, right? They get better, but it's far from preferable. Delts shouldn't be too bad, maybe you're putting in too much oil, or something?

I pinned 1cc, now I ve got EO based oil, maybe that will be better.

 

[Wunderpus]

I pinned 1cc, now I ve got EO based oil, maybe that will be better.

Lol EO will be worse! Who is suggesting EO based? You know that shit eats through plastic, right? It's only necessary for hard-to-hold compounds such as tren base in solution. I pretty much avoid EO at all costs.

 

[ady]

Well, so far so good with EO, I got Profina, 100mg test P/ 100mg tren A/ ml. I haven't tried on the delts yet, but I read in general it gives less pip...

 

[jJjburton]

Well, so far so good with EO, I got Profina, 100mg test P/ 100mg tren A/ ml. I haven't tried on the delts yet, but I read in general it gives less pip...

I wake up so dam cold after sweating from tren while sleeping. I try to wipe myself as fast as possible when I get up and go back to sleep. I wake up 5-6 times drenched. I need o change sheet throughout the night or put towels down.

 

[ady]

I wake up so dam cold after sweating from tren while sleeping. I try to wipe myself as fast as possible when I get up and go back to sleep. I wake up 5-6 times drenched. I need o change sheet throughout the night or put towels down.

I can't complain much, I just feel generally hot all day and in my room i just keep the heat to 15 degrees. However, I have hard times sleeping, it is hard to fall sleep and I wake up 5-6 hours later.

And I got a blood presure machine, I am 162/95.. bit high, I will have to drink more water and shouldn't forget to take aromasin everyday...

 

[Hotrods12]

Seems tren sides are starting to kick in, if I walk fast I run out of breath. Today I gave a presentation and had to stop talking to breathe in. Also found out that some times at night I wake up cold and I realized that is because my t-shirt is wet and cold from sweating.

I am getting a bit paranoid with testicle shrinkage, I have HCG for the last 4 weeks in which I will take 500iu 2x week. It will be left 1000 iu, I was thinking divide it in 200iu shots and take it once a week to stimulate my guys. I know that the size will come back after the cycle, but what if in the way some cells die and my test levels decrease more. Any thoughts? is 200iu a week do some stimulation?

Save your HCG till the end, you will get a little ball strinkage from the test but nothing out of the norm

 

[ady]

Save your HCG till the end, you will get a little ball strinkage from the test but nothing out of the norm

I am a bit paranoid with the shrinkage, I read I can pin 250 Iu twice a week to prevent it, on the weeks 8-12 I will increase the dose to whatever is left. Bro, my pre cycle test was 380, on the lower end, and I don't want to be in the low clinical end. Better prevent than regret