Tren and increased RHR: mechanism?

[y777]

Hi folks

Has anyone found what is the primary mechanism of how /why tren specifically raises resting heart rate?

All else being equal , a few of weeks into tren my RHR is +20 or +30. No other sides. 150 mg weekly.

On Telmisartan and BP is unchanged , sleep is fine. No sweats.

I initially thought it’s related to extra dopamine or adrenaline but I don’t get the same response from other drugs that boost adrenaline or dopamine like high doses of primo or mast or even winstrol. Even on a 600mg weekly deca cycle i don’t get this.

This has happened every time I’ve run tren (third time I’m running it and prior times I’ve running doses. Other times I’ve run Nabivolol because it lowers resting HR.this time around my tren is lower dosed , I’m doing an hour of cardio daily and added cardarine on cycle and still the RHR is higher. It doesn’t go up as much during lifts or cardio but just the RHR.

Anyway , I’m specifically wondering what the mechanism is for the spike, if anyone else knows

For reference, my weekly stack is below. I’ve run it pre tren and I’ve run higher doses before without much effect on RHR. I’ve also taken stimulants before for adhd and they have zero effect on my HR. (Not taking them on cycle ).

Test-u 125
Mast E 400
Deca 50
Tren hex 150

HGH 2ius daily
HCG 250 eod

Daily 60min fasted cardio
Cardarine 20mg while on tren
Telmisartan

thank you

 

[xrayphoton13]

I get the same thing running high nandrolone/NPP but didn't notice it running tren e during a recomp so I have to wonder if it's something else plus the AAS in combination causes it. Are u eating more than usual or taking stimulants? Tirz or reta? I notice my rhr is low during a low calorie diet but goes up quite a bit with high calories. It also goes up on tirz and reta along with caffeine/ephedrine which was why I asked

 

[rokkrul3r]

when I was running a gram of test I had no blood pressure problem, no edema, but my RHR was always high

I did LISS everyday, but it only dropped when I dropped my test to 500

try to switch to tren ace, long ester tren can be a bitch

 

[y777]

I get the same thing running high nandrolone/NPP but didn't notice it running tren e during a recomp so I have to wonder if it's something else plus the AAS in combination causes it. Are u eating more than usual or taking stimulants? Tirz or reta? I notice my rhr is low during a low calorie diet but goes up quite a bit with high calories. It also goes up on tirz and reta along with caffeine/ephedrine which was why I asked

No stimulants. Diet same. This is nothing new for me w tren but was just wondering why it does this

No issues with other 19nors (200-250 test with 400-500 NPP. Or 200 test + 600 deca + 800 mast e). Only tren

 

[y777]

when I was running a gram of test I had no blood pressure problem, no edema, but my RHR was always high

I did LISS everyday, but it only dropped when I dropped my test to 500

try to switch to tren ace, long ester tren can be a bitch

I hear you on test. I can’t run high test whatsoever. Most I’ve run was 500+ but typically 250-300 during blasts with DHTs but with 19nors I keep
Test at 200 or less even.

That’s interesting what you’ve said with Ace vs longer ester tren. I’ve had the RHR spike
With either. Never ran tren e. Mostly ace but now
Hex , which I am a BIG fan of now.
Need way way less of it. 150 hex feels like 300 of ace to me. Zero sides. Truly worthy of a TRT stack lol (I wish )

 

[NotHuman]

I don’t know the mechanism but Tren and MENT jack up my heart rate. Test, Deca, primo, or anavar: no real increase.

 

[Bammdk]

Just do Nebivolol? 5-10mg ED?