Tren E or Hex?

[nonemoreben]

Hey y’all I’m looking to do a summer cycle with Tren and I’m thinking of trying a long ester Tren for the first time. I’ve done Ace a couple of times and have handled the sides well, so I’m wondering if the difference between Enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan) makes any difference to any of y’all in your personal experience in so far as length of cycle (do I need to run Hex longer/higher than E) and do more or less sides appear? The only sides I dealt with was tren dick, which I figured out with e2 and prolactin control, and some acne that was managed with a basic astringent.

Thanks in advance.

 

[theotherguy]

Hey y’all I’m looking to do a summer cycle with Tren and I’m thinking of trying a long ester Tren for the first time. I’ve done Ace a couple of times and have handled the sides well, so I’m wondering if the difference between Enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan) makes any difference to any of y’all in your personal experience in so far as length of cycle (do I need to run Hex longer/higher than E) and do more or less sides appear? The only sides I dealt with was tren dick, which I figured out with e2 and prolactin control, and some acne that was managed with a basic astringent.

Thanks in advance.

Tren hex is a lot more expensive, but also has a much longer half life. So if you wanna pin less frequently and have the money to spend, use tren hex. If you want to save money and have the tren out of your system quicker, use enanthate. I think with hex you’ll also be pinning a lot more oil than enth, because I don’t think I’ve ever seen a higher concentration than 100 mg/mL with hex

I’ve only ever used tren a and e, but seem to handle/mitigate sides quite well.

 

[jJjburton]

Trena is the best, love being able to feel the sgression from pinning it and hitting gym

 

[hometeam]

I like enanthate better for a few reasons. Unless you do a couple loading doses it'll take a couple months for hex to kick in. Then it takes forever to leave your system. Long term tren use screws with your thyroid and all sorts of other stuff you don't want in the summer.

 

[effswithtren]

I always figured the main appeal of hex was the allure of it being the ‘special’ one, only one used in humans etc. Aside from that allure, I’d just as soon use the E and save some considerable money.

 

[1tank1]

Hex is marginally more potent IME but don't ask me to explain why as I really don't understand it myself. I honestly think the greater effect was due to the brand and not the ester.

E or Hex? Use either for similar results.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I like enanthate better for a few reasons. Unless you do a couple loading doses it'll take a couple months for hex to kick in. Then it takes forever to leave your system. Long term tren use screws with your thyroid and all sorts of other stuff you don't want in the summer.

You know Hex is an ester between acetate and Enanthate right? It’s a mid range ester and the only form of Tren ever approved for use in humans.

 

[Alphalfa]

You know Hex is an ester between acetate and Enanthate right? It’s a mid range ester and the only form of Tren ever approved for use in humans.

Just the opposite, Hex is by far the longest half-life ester of the 3 commonly available trenbolone esters.
Like almost double of the enanthate ester and around 8 times the acetate one.

Approx:

 

[Country Club Hero]

Just the opposite, Hex is by far the longest half-life ester of the 3 commonly available trenbolone esters.
Like almost double of the enanthate ester and around 8 times the acetate one.

Approx:

I stand corrected. I have believed that for years lol. I still want to try the original Parabolan 76.5mg. Idk why but it’s the most mysterious/hyped compound in my mind since I started gear. But Enanthate is boring. I guess ace is king after all.

 

[Gixjon22]

Just the opposite, Hex is by far the longest half-life ester of the 3 commonly available trenbolone esters.
Like almost double of the enanthate ester and around 8 times the acetate one.

Approx:

I disagree with these half lives. Any research ive done has shown them to be substantially longer

ace 3 enan 8 hex 14. Only reason for hex if you dont want to pin often. If you can pin e3-4 days enanthate is the way to go.

 

[nonemoreben]

Thanks guys. I think I’ll just give Tren E a go.

 

[SUGARBEAR]

Hey y’all I’m looking to do a summer cycle with Tren and I’m thinking of trying a long ester Tren for the first time. I’ve done Ace a couple of times and have handled the sides well, so I’m wondering if the difference between Enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan) makes any difference to any of y’all in your personal experience in so far as length of cycle (do I need to run Hex longer/higher than E) and do more or less sides appear? The only sides I dealt with was tren dick, which I figured out with e2 and prolactin control, and some acne that was managed with a basic astringent.

Thanks in advance.

Hex is shorter ester (therefore more hormone) than enanthate. Try to keep the test equal or longer ester than tren. Keeps test levels more present while coming off. That’s the theory anyhow. So to speak, better keeping gains, and better advantage when starting hcg.
Hex is more rare, but not that much. You really need less hex than enanthate to do the same job (hormone/total mass). Halflife: ace 3 days; hex 7 days; E 11 days. Would recommend as a kind of halfway point between hex and e.

 

[theotherguy]

Hex is shorter ester (therefore more hormone) than enanthate. Try to keep the test equal or longer ester than tren. Keeps test levels more present while coming off. That’s the theory anyhow. So to speak, better keeping gains, and better advantage when starting hcg.
Hex is more rare, but not that much. You really need less hex than enanthate to do the same job (hormone/total mass). Halflife: ace 3 days; hex 7 days; E 11 days. Would recommend as a kind of halfway point between hex and e.

Check @Alphalfa post above, post #8. I know there is a lot of conflicting info out there when it comes to steroid half lives, but it is pretty well known that hex is longer than E. Also, with regards to ester weight, hex is a heavier ester then enth, so you would need MORE hex than enth for an equal tren dose. I think enth is 68mg/mg and hex is 65 mg/mg. So they're close, but hex is still heavier.

Also, don't conflate ester weight with half life. USUALLY, heavier ester means longer half life, but not always. Look at phenylpropionate. It is definitely on the heavy side, but is still considered a short ester.

 

[SUGARBEAR]

Parabolan is usually listed as an equal or shorter halflife than enanthate. From steroid.com:

“Parabolan Profile:​

• (Trenbolone Base + HexaHydroBencyl Carbonate Ester){*}
• [17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one]
• Formula: C20 H24 O3
• Molecular Weight (base): 270.3706
• Molecular Weight (ester):130.1864
• Formula (base): C18 H22 O2
• Melting Point (base): 183-186C
• Manufacturer: Negma,
• Effective Dose (Men): 300-500mgs/week
• Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
• Active life: 5-7 days{**}
• Detection Time: 4-5 weeks
• Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 500/500”

*…Benzyl…
**Half life, not active life.

“Testosterone Enanthate Profile:​

• 17b-hydroxy-4-androsten-3-one
• Testosterone base + Enanthate ester
• Molecular Weight: 412.6112
• Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
• Molecular Weight (ester): 130.1864
• Formula (base): C19 H28 O2
• Formula (ester):C7 H12 O
• Melting Point (base): 155
• Manufacturer: Various
• Effective Dose (Men): 200-1,000mg week
• Effective Dose (Women): Not recommended
• Active life: 8 days{*}
• Detection Time: 3 months
• Anabolic/Androgenic ratio: 100/100”

*Half life, not active life.
Some other sites say 10.5 days (1.5 weeks).

 

[SUGARBEAR]

Check @Alphalfa post above, post #8. I know there is a lot of conflicting info out there when it comes to steroid half lives, but it is pretty well known that hex is longer than E. Also, with regards to ester weight, hex is a heavier ester then enth, so you would need MORE hex than enth for an equal tren dose. I think enth is 68mg/mg and hex is 65 mg/mg. So they're close, but hex is still heavier.

Also, don't conflate ester weight with half life. USUALLY, heavier ester means longer half life, but not always. Look at phenylpropionate. It is definitely on the heavy side, but is still considered a short ester.

Cool information on the ester weight/half life relationship.