tren or masteron or ?

[eleven11]

Would like a few suggestions.
I've been on a long cycle.
Wk 1-12 750 test E & 600 eq was doing winny in there but don't care for it.

Starting wk 13 450 prop & 400 eq. my plan was to run 17 - 18 wks. total
first 10 wks was getting bigger and leaning up a bit. then start into a cutting phase. I was debating on running tren or masteron the last 3-4 wks. I know about the two but have never used either. would like some thoughts. I'm at about 10% BF now but not as vascular as I'd normally be at this point.
I've been doing t-3 and clen for 6 wks and have been running nolva for the last month or so..............11

Stats
5'9.5" start 193lbs. 200lbs top. at 190 now 42yrsyoung

 

[maxx]

Would like a few suggestions.
I've been on a long cycle.
Wk 1-12 750 test E & 600 eq was doing winny in there but don't care for it.

Starting wk 13 450 prop & 400 eq. my plan was to run 17 - 18 wks. total
first 10 wks was getting bigger and leaning up a bit. then start into a cutting phase. I was debating on running tren or masteron the last 3-4 wks. I know about the two but have never used either. would like some thoughts. I'm at about 10% BF now but not as vascular as I'd normally be at this point.
I've been doing t-3 and clen for 6 wks and have been running nolva for the last month or so..............11

Stats
5'9.5" start 193lbs. 200lbs top. at 190 now 42yrsyoung

me personaly would be in favor of tren...never used masteron,thought that it wasnt produced any longer.tren will help you put on that lean muscle that your after,and gives you insane pumps.

maxx

 

[eleven11]

me personaly would be in favor of tren...never used masteron,thought that it wasnt produced any longer.tren will help you put on that lean muscle that your after,and gives you insane pumps.

maxx

At this point I'm looking for ripped and vascular. In the sticky's tren was in all the cutters........11

 

[Endocrine_Supply]

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If you want to drop your estrogens as much as possible then drostanolone (masteron) would be the best choice. The masteron will act as an anti-estrogen with the testosterone present... and would help you bring down your estrogens therefore reducing bloat.

The "anti-estrogenic" effects of drostanolone can best be compared to proviron.

If your not running any anacils then the tren may iritate your nips and cause gyno and some unwanted bloat from the progestin effects.

Good luck. -ES

 

[maxx]

At this point I'm looking for ripped and vascular. In the sticky's tren was in all the cutters........11

well as you know your diet will be 90% of "ripped and vacularity"...tren will give you lean gain without the water and estrogen sides.at high does it can give prog. sides,but i have never had a problem with it.tren is the shit...by far my favorite drug.also it a far greater chance of getting bunk masteron imo.hope that helps.

maxx

 

[Deacon]

IMO I would chose tren - Masteron can be hell for anyone other than very advanced users - most of the trouble is that it can suck you dry so fast that you wont even know it and cant do much to stop it - it is hell on blood pressure, elevated heart rate, and even the kidneys - I would much rather use tren - especially for what you want to achieve

 

[eleven11]

so far so good . keep um coming.............11

 

[Endocrine_Supply]

Es

Deacon,

"sucks you dry" What does that mean? Something sexual?

"hell on blood presure, heart rate, and kidneys" Are you thinking of oxymethalone my friend? OR perhaps you have some medical research for these claims?

When comparing ALL side effects, Masteron would be a safer and more effective alternative to Trenbolone... and like I said before trenbolone could potentialy agravate a gyno condition if you have to much estrogen floating around.

But like the others have already said, "Masteron is hard to find". Good luck there. -ES

 

[T-Biggs]

Personally I see no need for Masteron unless you are 8%BF or below and competing so I would stick with the Tren as you are 10% BF the tren will assist (slightly) in helping reduce that number more so then Masteron (also think of your hairline on Masteron)

 

[eleven11]

Personally I see no need for Masteron unless you are 8%BF or below and competing so I would stick with the Tren as you are 10% BF the tren will assist (slightly) in helping reduce that number more so then Masteron (also think of your hairline on Masteron)

That was one of my conserns with masteron. I've been able to hold on to most of my hair and have been on propicia for a few years now. I plan on getting that low BF but have no desire to compete. My local guy has some masteron, I've known him for yrs. and he's on the verge of turning pro so I know it's real. I've been wanting to try tren for a while and thats where I'm leaning..........11

 

[Pablo escabar jr.]

Tren IMO is far and away superior to Masteron, personally I'v never seen resualts from Masteron like I do from Tren. Tren will harden you up while adding lean mass, and amazing Strength gains...Masteron is good for vascularity..thats about it in my book. Run the tren @ 75mg-100mg ED and the resualts will blow your mind Bro.

Pablo Escabar Jr.

 

[Nuteboy]

Replying

I will be running Masteron in the next week or so. Therefore I'll report back what results I got. Currently I'm using Tren and it's great. However, as mentioned early dieting is 90% of getting lean.

You can take Tren at 500 grams ED and you won't see "one vein" unless you diet. Trust me when I say dieting is the key. How do I Know? Becuz my slick ass thought I could just use all my goodies and not "really" diet.

We'll I'm 8 weeks for the Jr. Nationals and you know what got me really lean that my abs are very visible and I have veins running all through my arms and legs? DIETING. The moment I "kick" my diet in full forced I saw results.

So get your diet in "full force" which it appears you may already and then through your "goodies" in the mix and WATCH OUT. You'll be a road map.

 

[eleven11]

I will be running Masteron in the next week or so. Therefore I'll report back what results I got. Currently I'm using Tren and it's great. However, as mentioned early dieting is 90% of getting lean.

You can take Tren at 500 grams ED and you won't see "one vein" unless you diet. Trust me when I say dieting is the key. How do I Know? Becuz my slick ass thought I could just use all my goodies and not "really" diet.

We'll I'm 8 weeks for the Jr. Nationals and you know what got me really lean that my abs are very visible and I have veins running all through my arms and legs? DIETING. The moment I "kick" my diet in full forced I saw results.

So get your diet in "full force" which it appears you may already and then through your "goodies" in the mix and WATCH OUT. You'll be a road map.

Thanks Nute. diet is real good, cardio 20 min. after workout and 50 min on off days is doing the trick too. if I've got one thing its willpower. I'm picking up some tren so I'll be on it the last 4 wks along with the prop I'm on and I'm finishing up my eq in the next wk. .........11

 

[pumppumppuk]

so far so good . keep um coming.............11

ygm bro

 

[john_phillips]

People are talking about tren OR masteron. Why not use both?

bump for more input on Masteron and user experiences.

thanks,
JaPe

 

[eleven11]

People are talking about tren OR masteron. Why not use both?

bump for more input on Masteron and user experiences.

thanks,
JaPe

Funny you should say that JP. I'm using both at the moment
I started the tren a little over 3wks ago and just started the masteron earlier this wk. along with prop and a little EQ. I'm using Univex for the record except the eq (QV) I had quite a bit..................11

 

[john_phillips]

Funny you should say that JP. I'm using both at the moment
I started the tren a little over 3wks ago and just started the masteron earlier this wk. along with prop and a little EQ. I'm using Univex for the record except the eq (QV) I had quite a bit..................11

Can you update this thread from time to time with your results?
It looks like you should be down to the range where masteron's effects are noticeable, correct? (like 8% or whatever people claim). Since it's a short ester, the mast should kick in pretty I would think. Let us know all that's going on with it and effects (hair issues, the drying you out to fast thing that was mentioned above, etc).

Thank you sir!!
JaPe

 

[eleven11]

Can you update this thread from time to time with your results?
It looks like you should be down to the range where masteron's effects are noticeable, correct? (like 8% or whatever people claim). Since it's a short ester, the mast should kick in pretty I would think. Let us know all that's going on with it and effects (hair issues, the drying you out to fast thing that was mentioned above, etc).

Thank you sir!!
JaPe

will do. I'm pretty sure at this point I'm in single digets in BF. I'm gonna get water tank test asap to see where I'm at. I know I'm close. the tren is awsome really feeling a warmness thruout the day, no nite sweats which is fine with me. deca did that to me and I hated it. and I figured it was a good time to start the Mast. will keep you posted..................11

 

[scrappy]

I don't think tren is any better for the hair than masteron
nor do I think mast is worse for BP. In fact I've seen tren be worse.

I favor mast as it does not give me the prolactin sides of tren.

 

[eleven11]

will do. I'm pretty sure at this point I'm in single digets in BF. I'm gonna get water tank test asap to see where I'm at. I know I'm close. the tren is awsome really feeling a warmness thruout the day, no nite sweats which is fine with me. deca did that to me and I hated it. and I figured it was a good time to start the Mast. will keep you posted..................11

Well I guess I can't judge BF like I used to. I was 12.7%bf. I'm 42 so thats in the excellent range. I don't think I want to get any leaner but def. want to get harder if possible. Anyway been on the masteron for 2wks now along with the tren 4wks and I'm starting to feal a little dryer. I stopped the prop earlier this wk so hopefully in the next wk or so I'll appear a little harder..........11