Great Christmas Present getting results back from Jano!
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MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Triple B Solutions Test Results
- Thread starter TripleBSolutions
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I hope the 330mg reading is for a 300mg oil at least.
Perhaps a better format
50mg Anavar -> 52.97mg Janoshik Analytical
100mg/ml Tren A -> 95.39mg/ml Janoshik Analytical
200mg/ml Primo E -> 225mg/ml Janoshik Analytical
300mg/ml Test E -> 329.69mg/ml Janoshik Analytical
better over dosed then under I guess, although I think it’s best to stay within 5% over/under but in the case of primo and a 300mg test e ... I don’t imagine anyone will care too much... just food for though, glad you guys got testing in before Christmas, maybe this can drum up some business for you guys...
I overdose, but obviously the raws were extremely good. I'll be adjusting a bit based off of these results unless customers reach out and ask me not to change anything.
Petarosus188
New Member
Just one question: How is lab tests SEND IN BY SOURCE ITSELF- any valid? What source will send underdosed shit to janoshik? Unless its a test by third party from streets or online shops...THIS IS WORTHLESS INFO.
Then buy from me and send it in. These vials were pulled randomly. When I opened I said the same thing but I got attacked for not having testing done so here it is.
He's just trying to get started here at MESO and didn't have any test results to start. We recommend a source comes with their own testing to start because it's better than nothing. Of course, blind customer tests are better and encouraged but Mr. Triple B hasn't been here long enough for customers to even try his gear or get it tested. It's a start in the right direction.
Test_Subject
Member
Looks good in general.
However, one thing that stands out to me is that you said that you overdose everything but your test C by 5%. I'm thinking that your tren A raws are pretty shit if that's the case. You overdosed it by 5% and it still came out almost 5% under the label claim? That's a lot of impurity.
However, one thing that stands out to me is that you said that you overdose everything but your test C by 5%. I'm thinking that your tren A raws are pretty shit if that's the case. You overdosed it by 5% and it still came out almost 5% under the label claim? That's a lot of impurity.
I noticed that as well. Not far off the mark but should have been closer to 105mg/ml than 95mg/ml. I've always been curious what the remaining ingredients are in these raws when they aren't pure. What was in the EQ raws that were going around that were only 70-80% pure? Folks still used it and I can't recall hearing any problems associated with it but still makes me wonder.
Test_Subject
Member
The impurities are most likely byproducts of the manufacturing process, or at least I'd like to believe that's the case. If they were added intentionally, I'd expect to see more shitty raws of the more expensive hormones like primo et al. Tren ace and EQ aren't terribly expensive, so adultering them for profit seems unlikely.
But 99% of raws are from China so it could be anything. We're talking about the country where a company used melamine as a filler in baby formula. They aren't exactly known for ethical business traditions.
Before testing was so widely available, it may have been more common practice to cut raws intentionally but now days, sources have 3rd party testing available. I imagine the raw manufacturers realize they will make far more money in the long run by supplying quality products.
The "impurities" are defects in the manufacturing process. The defect could be a broken covalent bond that makes the molecular structure inert, or fragmentation that causes the same thing.
I received a new batch of Tren A raws before I got the test results back. It's already brewed - I will be sending it off to Jano.
If anyone would like to test my products I'll give a $250 store credit for results from Jano. Just don't tell me before you buy it so it can be a blind test.
I received a new batch of Tren A raws before I got the test results back. It's already brewed - I will be sending it off to Jano.
If anyone would like to test my products I'll give a $250 store credit for results from Jano. Just don't tell me before you buy it so it can be a blind test.
Test_Subject
Member
That's the textbook definition of what an impurity is: material that differs from a substance's intended chemical composition.
An impurity doesn't need to be harmful to be considered an impurity. Drinking water contains numerous harmless impurities, for example -- but if you try to use tap water to do chemistry, the accuracy of your results will suffer.
I'd look into getting your raws tested before you brew each batch, personally. Getting them tested after they've already been put into solution doesn't do you any good as far as allowing for corrections. It's a lot easier to get accurate results if the potency of the raw is a known value rather than a guess, but you do you.
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I agree it would be ideal. I'm working on more testing along with batch numbers and other things that Meso has requested. Perhaps once I have those things together you will give me a try.
Test_Subject
Member
I will say that you've been very receptive to criticism for the most part and it feels like you're trying to do things right.
Exactly this, perhaps @janoshik can tell us more about the impurities found on anabolics.
janoshik
Subscriber
Other anabolic steroids, synthesis byproducts, stuff like flour or sugar as an adulteration in orals has been a recent hit...
The synthesis byproducts are what I’m interested in if you know what they might be, I have some experience working in lab doing organic synthesis but you do quantitive/qualitative analysis so you might know just what they are.. the synthesis byproducts could be dangerous potentially or have some kind of effect I’m wondering if you have and papers or personal knowledge of this.
janoshik
Subscriber
Nah, usually it's just free ester, unesterized AAS, close derivatives etc..
Eg. I did some GC/MS on DHT a little while ago and among the ~1.5% impurities were only other closely related steroids.
Eg. I did some GC/MS on DHT a little while ago and among the ~1.5% impurities were only other closely related steroids.
