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37yo white male 6'2" 244#s down from 296 in June 22.
Well, ive been 5 weeks into Test 200, Primo 140, hcg 250xs3, and HGH 2ius xs 7.
Screenshots are from todays and the most recent w just the Test 200 and Hcg 3xs 250. I Had a bit of a freakput when sema caused the ED and thought it was e2 so I took 1mg anastrazole and it tabked my e2 to 14 as an outlier. I generally have higher e2 levels around 48 and as high as 62.

I wouldnt say ive had any side effects, cocks not as at the ready and a bit softer at times but gets the job done. Some chest acne but nothing really. My Thyroid #s have changed a bit from natty last Oct. Idk if the HGH is effecting that but I'll assume. My weight has stayed about the same despite a definite deficit charted daily but composition is much improved. For the last 2 weeks Ive been off the semaglutide but will run some tirz here in the near future to cut the last 15 or so I want to.

Thanks for any insight. Debating increasing the T and Primo but wanted a 5 week trial amd check in. Any thoughts on any of it helps.
 

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900 ng/dl on 200mgs/test a week! What ester of Test? How many times a week? How many days after your pin are you getting blood work?If you stay on this dose of Test and are paying for these tests, you don't need to keep testing Test and SHBG every time. Putting a value to X test level on this Ester, this many days after a pin will help you for a future reference.

You are upping primo, dabbing with anastrazole and HCG. I would focus more on getting a lipid panel, ultrasensitive E2 and CBC. I am on a few TRT forums and many guys feel better with higher E2 (50-80), its all subjective and is not the only factor for porn-star erections.

Personally when HCT and HGB get into the upper range my dong doesn't sing the same song. Something to keep in the back of your mind if you donate blood and it fixes the problem.

I hope this is helpful!
 
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Jdill75 said:
900 ng/dl on 200mgs/test a week! What ester of Test? How many times a week? If you stay on this dose of Test and are paying for these tests, you don't need to keep testing Test and SHBG every time.

You are upping primo, dabbing with anastrazole and HCG. I would focus more on getting a lipid panel, ultrasensitive E2 and CBC. I am on a few TRT forums and many guys feel better with higher E2 (50-80), its all subjective and is not the only factor for porn-star erections.

Personally when HCT and HGB get into the upper range my dong doesn't sing the same song. Something to keep in the back of your mind if you donate blood and it fixes the problem.

I hope this is helpful!
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I take test cyp from pharmacy, 2xs week IM. Were you surprised too high or too low?
The anastrazole was just once as a tital.freakout bc the semaglutide fkd my dick and never had ED ever so it was a weeding out process. Never used again bc it crashed my shit.
The moneys not an issue, this is my first 8mos non-natty and I wanna stay informed/ahead of anything.
Thanks for the suggestion on the extra panels.
 
Your numbers look fine other than e2 being low as you mentioned. The primo will give you an anti estrogen like effect so I highly doubt you need an AI at that test dosage. Just play around with your test/primo ratio till you find out what works best for you.

For me personally I've a very slow aromatizer. So much so that on 200mg of test my e2 runs lower than I'd like so I run hcg along side it to give me more estrogen conversion. I use to convert a bit more but after losing around 40 pounds of fat my e2 conversion slowed down some. Some of the aromatase enzyme lives in fat cells if you was unaware.

My prolactin likes to ride a bit higher than yours and usually stays around 18 or so which is due to me being on an ssri antidepressant but yours of course looks good. I definitely wouldn't give your hemoglobin or hematocrit a 2nd thought atm but obviously you're going to want to keep an eye on it as you continue down the exogenous testosterone and anabolics road :)

Something else about low e2. Low e2 makes me feel like complete garbage and my anxiety level is drastically higher with low e2 so if you're experiencing any negative feelings atm or a not so great sense of well-being then you could contribute that to your low e2 unless proven otherwise. Everyone is different of course and some guys feel fine with low e2

Goodluck!
 
Matt90 said:
Your numbers look fine other than e2 being low as you mentioned. The primo will give you an anti estrogen like effect so I highly doubt you need an AI at that test dosage. Just play around with your test/primo ratio till you find out what works best for you.

For me personally I've a very slow aromatizer. So much so that on 200mg of test my e2 runs lower than I'd like so I run hcg along side it to give me more estrogen conversion. I use to convert a bit more but after losing around 40 pounds of fat my e2 conversion slowed down some. Some of the aromatase enzyme lives in fat cells if you was unaware.

My prolactin likes to ride a bit higher than yours and usually stays around 18 or so which is due to me being on an ssri antidepressant but yours of course looks good. I definitely wouldn't give your hemoglobin or hematocrit a 2nd thought atm but obviously you're going to want to keep an eye on it as you continue down the exogenous testosterone and anabolics road :)

Something else about low e2. Low e2 makes me feel like complete garbage and my anxiety level is drastically higher with low e2 so if you're experiencing any negative feelings atm or a not so great sense of well-being then you could contribute that to your low e2 unless proven otherwise. Everyone is different of course and some guys feel fine with low e2

Goodluck!
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Thanks a ton and as a note, the e2 was from the BS freakout and arimidex usage, prior to starting the primo cycle. My labs vals from today had e2 back at 55, which Ive been higher but def debating moving the primo up to cover some of the e2. I didnt wanna just blast 200 or 250 and hope for the best in case it crashed me
 
HB_22 said:
Dont worry, everything is fine here. Total testosterone will be lower and free testosterone higher with test+primo because primo will set bound testosterone free (which is what you want).
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So, T has felt fine and moving from my buddys "pharm" Primo to my QSC, ive noticed hits harder and I think I can safely move up a bit. Do you feel the low and slow is best, as in 200 P a week versus 250? The T will be moved up to 250. So I guess the real question is what would you do or just thoughts on 250/250 or do 200T and 250P.
I'm still in recomposition mode, 251 6'2 at roughly 17% new.bodpod next week for accuracy
 
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