Slowww
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What colors are tren ace and Npp raws? Is Tren Ace yellow and NPP white? Raw source forgot to label on my order of these two and I haven’t brewed these before so I’m not familiar.
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Anabolic Steroids
Unlabelled raws
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theotherguy
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Generally, yes, IME that is the case. I assume those are the only 2 raws you have that are unlabeled?
Of course, the only sure way to know would to be to get them tested.
Slowww
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Yeah I only ordered those two. In the past when I order several raws together they label them. I don’t have a reason to think they would be other compounds though because previous orders have been correct.
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klokke23
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Appearance of NPP
Hi, was just attempting to brew some NPP and ending up having to use half of it from panda and half from another source. They look quite different. Has anybody seen NPP have a different appearance before? Thanks in advance.
thinksteroids.com
The whitest one is exactly what my NPP from ppanda looked like
Slowww
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Yeah, totally doable. Last time I brewed Test ace it took a lot more heat than other esters and compounds. I’ll brew what I assume is npp first at lower temp and tren ace after at the same, assuming it won’t dissolve then increase heat incrementally. Awesome tip!
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klokke23
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Are you sure you're not mistaken? My Tren ace almost fully dissolved at room temp with the beaker just sitting there. It has a very low melting point.
My NPP wouldn't dissolve on it's own, not even after 2 days while I was away. Water bath didn't cut it. So I had to put it on the stove at the 2nd lowest setting. Around 50°C
Slowww
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IME last few times brewing test acetate I had a lot of trouble getting it not to crash, and to enter the solution without significantly higher heat. My water bath goes up to 100* C, so I could monitor the temp. I had to crank it way higher than primo enanthate or test prop (which I use 10-25* C in winter). 50* C is still a lot higher than what I usually use on other esters.
Either way, it helps to know color too in case the temp thing is not right.
origamiwizard8
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My tren ace looked like yellow sand, it's one of the only raws I've used that have a distinct color.
I was going to suggest melt test the raws that way you know what you are brewing with before you start. Really with the disparity in melting temps it will be easiest to just to try to melt the samples side by side and simply see which one melts first. You could simply take a cookie sheet then place a small eraser head sized sample on one end of the sheet then the other on the other end. I think ovens usually start as low as 200-225 f and that's is overlapping the 90-99c range that npp and tren ace melt within. If you have a hot plate then you could start the temp lower around 80-85c then just slowly notch it up until the first one melts. I don't know the amount you want to invest in this endeavor but those laser thermometers are fairly affordable, I got one for 20 something at Wally world in the automotive section. That thing will let you measure the sheet around the sample and determine very closely to the exact temp the sample is sitting on.
Even an electric stove top should let you heat to the 85c range and slowly increase with teenie tiny turns on the control knob. The oven will make it harder to watch plus an oven is not evenly hot and it uses air to transmit the heat.
I can tell you that I invested in this digitally controlled electronic hot plate just so I could increase one degree at a time and do a quality melt test on my raws. Now the hotplate is actually sold for electronic and hobby type stuff but so far when I dial in a given temp then let it tell me that it has reached that exact temp the reading I get with my laser thermometer is within a degree. So both could be equally inaccurate but I think they are within a degree or two of accuracy. Keep in mind the hotplate is from China so its temps are Celsius so that is a wider range of temp per single degree vs fahrenheit.
I will also say yeah the larger bag that has a yellowish tint look like it could be tren ace to me. It is definitely within the range of possible color tint range. The other one that is supposed to npp, I seem to remember npp having smaller more flour like consistency to the powder. But that could be me remembering something else.
