VIP - biotech

[mikeyfla]

When I first started cycling I ordered from VIP, 3 years ago, had blood work done 8 weeks into a 500mg test cycle and test levels we're high, VIP then shut down and I've used many sources since, I saw VIP was back up so I ordered again since my local source stopped selling. Got the biotech test enthanate in , 20 bottles, not only we're there 2 different size bottles, but also looked like one was darker yellow than the other, 2 different tops, one blank and smooth and one said flip off. The darker yellow one has some horrific pip, the lighter one is much thinner, not as bad on pip, but I'm 10 weeks in on 750 mg and diet is 4000 to 5000 mostly clean, haven't noticed much size at all and libido has about dropped off. Havent had blood work, can't afford to right now... but I'm assuming if there is test in this, very little. Both bottles Ha e same batch number and expiration dates...and are printed on not stamped like I have been told it should be. Anyone have any recent dealing with vip? I emailed him and his response was the real biotech labels and lids are getting stopped thru customs?? Make sense?

 

[Frank the tank 456]

When I first started cycling I ordered from VIP, 3 years ago, had blood work done 8 weeks into a 500mg test cycle and test levels we're high, VIP then shut down and I've used many sources since, I saw VIP was back up so I ordered again since my local source stopped selling. Got the biotech test enthanate in , 20 bottles, not only we're there 2 different size bottles, but also looked like one was darker yellow than the other, 2 different tops, one blank and smooth and one said flip off. The darker yellow one has some horrific pip, the lighter one is much thinner, not as bad on pip, but I'm 10 weeks in on 750 mg and diet is 4000 to 5000 mostly clean, haven't noticed much size at all and libido has about dropped off. Havent had blood work, can't afford to right now... but I'm assuming if there is test in this, very little. Both bottles Ha e same batch number and expiration dates...and are printed on not stamped like I have been told it should be. Anyone have any recent dealing with vip? I emailed him and his response was the real biotech labels and lids are getting stopped thru customs?? Make sense?

I have not had any dealings with VIP. I did just run a bio product and was very satisfied with it. I ran the bio TS400. It was a lite color with not much pip at all. I have some not so good things about VIP. Same stuff you mentioned. Do both your bottles have the hex? Do they have the hologram?

 

[mikeyfla]

My bottles have the circles and a gold halogram sticker. One issue of course is same lot number and expiration date but very obviously 2 different colors. I wonder if there is at least a little test in there...but I have no energy lately...I know that can be several reasons for that, but the drop in libido makes me wonder...also for the amount I'm doing, eating, and working out intensely 1.5 to 2 hours a day....should have nice gains.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

My bottles have the circles and a gold halogram sticker. One issue of course is same lot number and expiration date but very obviously 2 different colors. I wonder if there is at least a little test in there...but I have no energy lately...I know that can be several reasons for that, but the drop in libido makes me wonder...also for the amount I'm doing, eating, and working out intensely 1.5 to 2 hours a day....should have nice gains.

Did you say they gave you the legit stuff and the weak stuff? That's so weird man. I keep hearing VIP used to be good and fell off. The legit BIO product I used was good to me tho. I wish I knew where to get it...

 

[mikeyfla]

I do too. I have been doing a lot of reading and would love to just brew my own so I know exactly what's in it. Now to find good powder to try. Can always get cyp from Dr, but it's $140 per bottle and can't get enough. I've tried gear depot, naps etc the dragon at naps, sus 350 was the absolute worst pip ever...I've been told a lot of over seas have a lot of alcohol content.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

I do too. I have been doing a lot of reading and would love to just brew my own so I know exactly what's in it. Now to find good powder to try. Can always get cyp from Dr, but it's $140 per bottle and can't get enough. I've tried gear depot, naps etc the dragon at naps, sus 350 was the absolute worst pip ever...I've been told a lot of over seas have a lot of alcohol content.

Pharmacom has had real good reviews lately. Darius and Frank both appear to be on point these days. Have you read there thread? I'm not saying they are gtg. But if I was in the market myself, I would consider both of them. Just my 2 cents

 

[mikeyfla]

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[mikeyfla]

Do you know are they domestic? I had 1 seizure and afraid to order international again

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Do you know are they domestic? I had 1 seizure and afraid to order international again

They have int and domestic. The domestic costs more. That's the only difference. There is a lot of info in the thread. I'm pretty sure neither one has had a pack confiscated since 2011. Again, peep the thread brother. You will get a lot of info out of it to make your own conclusion. Like I said, rite now they are hot. With any UGL, that can change over nite. I have never dealt with either of them. I'm going by recent blood work and there quality control.

 

[mikeyfla]

Thanks for your help. I looked at their site but can't figure out where the prices are and how to actually order. Will look at it again more when I get home.

 

[achilles87]

The one thing about ordering from a site you have to make sure your on the right site. Pharmacom has some good reviews but there's always going to be the bad with any lab, it's on you to figure out what lab you want to use but just look around there's plenty to pick from. One other thing when buying, saving 5 to 8 dollars a bottle don't always pay off in the end. I'm not saying you have to pay top dollar but don't just buy the cheapest you can find. I see this a lot lately, guys saying oh I saved 7 dollars a bottle then 3 weeks later they post up that they have bad pip, they ain't feeling the gear blah blah blah lol so just think about that as well. Good luck with the hunt.

 

[mikeyfla]

One more thing, the lighter colored vial, I pinned in my glute and got a tren like cough right away, and a bad case of test flu I'm assuming later that night, body aches, chills, 100.4 fever...I was going to come off soon and cruise awhile, but I may have been off for awhile now anyway.

 

[Big_paul]

Never a good sign, unless they are using a different carrier. Ask them about it. If they started using EO that could account for the difference. I used it one time, shoulder was swollen and pip last for 3-4 days, and I never have pip.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

One more thing, the lighter colored vial, I pinned in my glute and got a tren like cough right away, and a bad case of test flu I'm assuming later that night, body aches, chills, 100.4 fever...I was going to come off soon and cruise awhile, but I may have been off for awhile now anyway.

Had the same problem using prop 200. Very high BA/AA content. Left me sick and crippled for a week

 

[mands]

What BIOTECH are you talking about here? Biotech Pharmiclinco?

mands

 

[mikeyfla]

Yes

 

[mands]

Why would you get it from VIP? There is a lot better supplier out there for bio. And biotech in my opinion is to inconsistent.

mands