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Dial It In
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Hello back. Welcome to Meso. What’s your stats? What’s your goals? Current cycle? What are you looking to improve here? How can the community help?
Elektrobot
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How old are you
How do you figure that?
What did you run previously
Banana Joe
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Shouldn't one ask *why*?
Easy fix, train harder, eat more.
Elektrobot
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How old are you dude
Banana Joe
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Does that also mean that you are already training since quite a while?
Your highest (presumably *after* your cycle?) is still less than *many* other's weighed *before* their first cycle.
I understand one can have "situations", as I had more than of those myself in the past, but at any of the given weights it is virtually impossible that you put as much effort into training and eating, as one should before running one's first cycle(-s).
If you drop that much in weight, the weight wasn't "training weight" to begin with, but "drug weight". That is why many guys that were once *really* big, can do jackshit and take 250mg TRT and still be 100-110kg easily and in okay shape.
Probably right. I’ve always been very slim and eating has definitively been an issue since I was a kid. Tried Mk677 way before I should’ve, which I do count as my first cycle.
I’ve trained pretty hard since I was 15, so, again, never looked anything close to fat pretty much ever. My goal is mostly lean bulking, eating well and such, not competing (or anything close to it), just to be strong and look good.
I’ve trained pretty hard since I was 15, so, again, never looked anything close to fat pretty much ever. My goal is mostly lean bulking, eating well and such, not competing (or anything close to it), just to be strong and look good.
Banana Joe
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Well, then you know what you have to fix first.
Almost nobody can outdrug a lack of food. If you were one of those 1 in 10-100k, you'd already know by now.
Almost nobody can outdrug a lack of food. If you were one of those 1 in 10-100k, you'd already know by now.
Elektrobot
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Lets focus on learning nutrition dude.
It's something that is maybe easy to blow off as not critical or something that and be left at "good enough", but on gear or off, the food we consume is literally the building blocks our body will use to build muscle.
As you start to learn it, and experience what changes it can make, you will realize exactly how true it is that "we are what we eat".
Get a food scale
Get a macro tracking app (I like MyNetDiary)
Accurately calculate your maintenance calories
Decide if you want to be in a deficit, at maintenance, or in a surplus
Make a food plan
And adhere to it. Track everything you eat to make sure you are hitting your macros. Learn what foods you digest well. Learn what foods don't work well for you.
Go down a rabbit hole of sports nutrition. You would have to learn that before starting any successful cycle anyways, so might as well do it now.
Appreciate it friend. I’ll get that app. I have been kind of tracking Macros and that’s what led me to gaining back some weight and muscle. I’m also living by myself now so gotta get used to cooking myself. I do love nutrition and will definitively not start a cycle just to look like sh*t anyways lol. I’ve seen it happen too often. Appreciate the advice and if you have any nutrition tips to just eat more or increase appetite that does not involve ykw please let me know!
Elektrobot
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What I really like about that app is that you can scan the barcode of a food package and it will automatically import the nutrition data. You just have to tell it how many grams or ounces of it you ate. Several other apps do the same thing, but you have to pay for it. MyNetDiary is the only one i've found where that feature is free.
A scale is important. It is essential for accurate information.
Appetite is hard. I struggle with that in several ways. I just have a low food drive naturally, and when I feel like I'm getting a little fat, my reaction is to not eat.
Having a solid plan helps. When you lay out the foods and macros you need for your goals, and use it like an instruction manual for how to feed yourself.... you just follow the plan and it does what it's supposed to do.
I incorporate a lot of fairlife ultra filtered fat free milk. I can usually always drink 20 ounces of that and get some high quality protein, regardless of appetite. I will eat about 15 grams of walnuts or some hemp seeds along with it to get some healthy fats.
I also eat a ton of rice. I find that I can just about always get 80 grams of rice down regardless of appetite. Get yourself a cheap rice cooker if you don't have one, learn how much water you like in your rice (I like mine pretty dry) and put it on 20 min before you are ready to eat.
There is TONS of good and bad nutrition content on youtube. Sometimes hearing the bad advice can be just as valuable as hearing the good advice. It teaches you how to sort out the BS from truth.
If you are a reader, this book can be a great start. FYI, my public library system has this book in their circulation. If you don't want to buy it, check your libraries.
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Banana Joe
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I got a life hack for everyone into both minimal cooking and BB:
Prepare these 3 foods in very large portions and then meal prep in fridge/freezer - or just make one bucket per day and have it finished in the evening:
- rice
- solid greens
- chicken breast and or very low fat ground beef
Assuming you are a healthy 27y old, this will *inevitably* make you grow if you train hard, as in *really* hard.
(I am not saying this is how you should eat, but you could do so for quite a while and wouldn't get in trouble for it.)
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Banana Joe
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At my age, I have even come full circle. I would put put food even above the kind of balls to the walls training I mean, when I write hard. If you train with very good form, but kinda like a girl, you would still grow - not as much as you could, but you would, without a doubt.
Thank you! I don’t love the rice and ground beef combo, but I did do something similar before with pasta, chicken and vegs. Let’s see how it goes this time.
I used to power lift when I was younger, local meets and such. I’m trying to get back to that style of training but time and weight have definitively taken a toll on the lifts. Doing very little cardio though. Wouldn’t last too much in the HIT classes right now.
I used to power lift when I was younger, local meets and such. I’m trying to get back to that style of training but time and weight have definitively taken a toll on the lifts. Doing very little cardio though. Wouldn’t last too much in the HIT classes right now.
