What ba bb% for high mg/ml test/tren/mast blend?

[Notadouche]

I'm researching for a 1-3-4 ratio of test-pp, mast-p, tren-a brew using miglyol 840 as a carrier at a concentration of 150mg/ml minimum. 200mg/ml would be preferable if doable without eo ??

I'd like to avoid ethyl oleate and use the minimum ba bb% possible.

I've seen recommendations all over the board. I'm leaning towards 1% ba 19% bb.

Would like to hear what the fine folks of meso have to say?

 

[hamza]

Why so much? It does so much Pain in the concentration. Believe me . 100mg/ml is enough

 

[Notadouche]

Why so much? It does so much Pain in the concentration. Believe me . 100mg/ml is enough

I'd like to keep my daily pins at 1ml or less. At 150mg/ml total I can acomplish that goal.

Will pip be that much more noticeable at 150mg/ml than at 100mg/ml?

 

[MANWHORE]

I'd like to keep my daily pins at 1ml or less. At 150mg/ml total I can acomplish that goal.

Will pip be that much more noticeable at 150mg/ml than at 100mg/ml?

Just pin 1.5ml in each spot that works better than trying to brew higher doses pain isn't worth it

 

[Notadouche]

Just pin 1.5ml in each spot that works better than trying to brew higher doses pain isn't worth it

I pin with 1ml slin pins that's why I've been researching the higher concentration...I'd rather not have to pin twice a day although I do divide the dose in two for triceps. Delts, chest and quads are my other sites.

I've recently discovered 3ml barrels and 27g .5" pins so maybe I'll just have to ultimately go that route with 100mg/ml.

I just figured if 150mg/ml was too painful I'd just dilute it down to 100mg/ml and roll on.

 

[MANWHORE]

I pin with 1ml slin pins that's why I've been researching the higher concentration...I'd rather not have to pin twice a day although I do divide the dose in two for triceps. Delts, chest and quads are my other sites.

I've recently discovered 3ml barrels and 27g .5" pins so maybe I'll just have to ultimately go that route with 100mg/ml.

I just figured if 150mg/ml was too painful I'd just dilute it down to 100mg/ml and roll on.

I thought you might use Slin but switch to 25g 3ml I'm small 180lbs
And I pop those 25g 1" everywhere without a sting

 

[high-octane]

100mg each in gso at 2% 20%

 

[Notadouche]

100mg each in gso at 2% 20%

Don't want to run 100/100/100. Goals are recomp...low test high tren.

I'd like to be somewhere around 30/70/100 or 25/75/100 @200mg/ml or 18.75/56.25/75 @150mg/ml.

Would you still recommend 2%ba 20%bb at these total concentrations or could I get away with less bb?

It's my understanding Miglyol 840 will hold a higher concentration than gso that's why I'm wondering...

 

[high-octane]

You can easily do those concentrations. 30/70/100 is probably what your looking for or 30/60/100. Also I'd rather a mix with 20% bb. Thinner oil when using gso. Never heard of miglyol. And you wouldn't need it at the concentration you quoted.

 

[Notadouche]

You can easily do those concentrations. 30/70/100 is probably what your looking for or 30/60/100. Also I'd rather a mix with 20% bb. Thinner oil when using gso. Never heard of miglyol. And you wouldn't need it at the concentration you quoted.

Miglyol 840 is purported to be the holy grail of carrier's but it can be difficult to aquire and is relatively expensive compared to other carrier oils. I've located a source and I don't mind the cost considering I'm only brewing for myself.

Pros are...It's extremely thin as is with a viscosity rating of 9-12 vs 25-33 of mct and 37 of gso. Supposedly it has a reputation of holding at higher concentrations better than gso, mct and the alike as well. Seams like a win win to me but I'm just a newb and it makes me nervous I don't see much about it on meso...

Anyway with it being so thin that is why I'm wondering if I can cut the bb back and if so how far?

 

[high-octane]

The only way to know is to try different bb%. BB is a solvent and suspends your hormone. If it's too low your gear will crash. Honestly, stick with gso or mct. It will be thin enough and cheaper.

 

[notanothersnake]

just put together tren a at 150mg/ml, tren a and mast prop 75mg ea, as well as NPP at 150. All with Mig and 20BB 3BA. The fina and fina/mast is a little touchy depending on where I pin but not bad but I like to stay under 1cc also.

And I have a bunch on Mig 840, fyi. Or u can just buy it on ebay...

 

[colossus25]

Honestly at those concentrations it will be very hard to get that to hold without EO. It doesn't matter what you use really it will have a shit ton of pip the next day.

Edit: im sorry man i read that wrong. %20 bb should be able to hold that no problem and mct is great with short esters.

 

[Erin]

Miglyol 840 is purported to be the holy grail of carrier's but it can be difficult to aquire and is relatively expensive compared to other carrier oils. I've located a source and I don't mind the cost considering I'm only brewing for myself.

Pros are...It's extremely thin as is with a viscosity rating of 9-12 vs 25-33 of mct and 37 of gso. Supposedly it has a reputation of holding at higher concentrations better than gso, mct and the alike as well. Seams like a win win to me but I'm just a newb and it makes me nervous I don't see much about it on meso...

Anyway with it being so thin that is why I'm wondering if I can cut the bb back and if so how far?

Miglyol 840 would appear to be ideal, but it has not been approved for injections, as far as I can tell. Does anyone have any references that it has been tested for parenteral drug delivery?

Miglyol 810 and 812 do appear to be approved - reference attached.

 

[notanothersnake]

Approved or not, I wont use anything but miglyol 840 now. I'm in the process of getting rid of all of my ugl gear that I have. I'll stick to the 840 I'm putting together myself... Ive been using it exclusively for a few months now.

And its not that much more than other carriers unless youre getting GSO at Walmart in the cooking section. I calculated it out to about 70 cents worth of oil to make 10ml of gear. And ive heard of ppl charging $10 more per 10ml of finished product just because it is mig 840 and not anything else.

 

[Erin]

For completeness, here is the original citation

 

[Notadouche]

Finally got around to brewing the tp/mp/tra blend. I brewed at 214mg/ml (40/76/98) with 1% ba and 19% bb in straight miglyol 840.

I let mixture sit overnight before filtering thru a .22u whatman. It completely dissolved within 3 hours but I still left it sit overnight. I used no heat at any point of the process.

It has now held perfect for nearly 4 days in ambient room temps of 80°.

I plan to pin .72ml ed (200/380/500 ew) I pinned .72ml approximately 29 hours ago thru a 29g slin pin with absolutely zero pip to date. At this point I'm fucking thrilled! Was really expecting some horrible pip...hope it stays this way.

I have to say I can't believe how easy the miglyol flows thru the slin pin. I've pinned safflower, gso and mct previously. Mct trounced safflower and gso in the same way miglyol has now trounced mct. If I don't eventually find out I'm pinning straight cancer with the miglyol ill never use anything but it again.

 

[XmadXscientist]

Finally got around to brewing the tp/mp/tra blend. I brewed at 214mg/ml (40/76/98) with 1% ba and 19% bb in straight miglyol 840.

I let mixture sit overnight before filtering thru a .22u whatman. It completely dissolved within 3 hours but I still left it sit overnight. I used no heat at any point of the process.

It has now held perfect for nearly 4 days in ambient room temps of 80°.

I plan to pin .72ml ed (200/380/500 ew) I pinned .72ml approximately 29 hours ago thru a 29g slin pin with absolutely zero pip to date. At this point I'm fucking thrilled! Was really expecting some horrible pip...hope it stays this way.

I have to say I can't believe how easy the miglyol flows thru the slin pin. I've pinned safflower, gso and mct previously. Mct trounced safflower and gso in the same way miglyol has now trounced mct. If I don't eventually find out I'm pinning straight cancer with the miglyol ill never use anything but it again.

Where did you get the migyol?

 

[Notadouche]

Peter Creamer...if you ask just right they'll make you a deal that can't be beat
@XmadXscientist

 

[XmadXscientist]

Thanks was looking at that site, waiting for a price quote now.