What is your preferred way to buy and send bitcoin for purchasing your gear? What kind of accountability can we hold bad vendors to??

[Lilstuff]

Bit of a long wind so bear with me.

What is your preferred way to buy and send bitcoin for purchasing your gear? What kind of accountability can we hold the vendors too on the Meso Rx forums if they don't deliver their products?

I placed my first order with what looks to be a reputable vendor who sponsors the underground forum. Mind you this is my first interaction with bitcoin period. Never looked up who sells it, what apps, never made an account, never bought nor sold bitcoin. Never sent bitcoin until a few weeks ago.

The hiccup is the vendor sent me an email twelve hours later asking if the funds were sent as he wasnt seeing them. They were and I have all the receipts. I copy and pasted his account address and sent the amount for the purchase. Theres a blockchain but did not see my amount on there. (No idea how that works).

In two emails I asked the vendor if he received the payment but never answered that specific question. The vendor did say I was good to go and things would be shipped ASAP. Because of the payment possibly not going through for whatever reason, I'm concerned the vendor might be blowing smoke up my butt. Saying he mailed it when he did not. But we'll see.

I know since this is the black market we cant just talk to the manager or give them a bad Google review. So is there any sort of repercussions for bad vendors on the Meso forums?

I used coinbase for my first time purchasing of and sending of bitcoin.

What say you?

 

[Ghoul]

Accountability takes the form of members who have trouble comment on it in the vendor's thread and they'll quickly be shunned. I realize it's disturbing to "throw money into a black hole", but if you're not seeing complaints from other members in that vendor's thread, the odds you're gong to be the first they choose to rip off are very small.

 

[Lilstuff]

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Accountability takes the form of members who have trouble comment on it in the vendor's thread and they'll quickly be shunned. I realize it's disturbing to "throw money into a black hole", but if you're not seeing complaints from other members in that vendor's thread, the odds you're gong to be the first they choose to rip off are very small.

If you don't mind me asking, have you ever had trouble sending bitcoin to an address? Or had someone say they never received payment?

 

[Ghoul]

If

If you don't mind me asking, have you ever had trouble sending bitcoin to an address? Or had someone say they never received payment?

No. Never. It's easily provable on the blockchain. To be clear, getting ripped off is not impossible, they could receive your money and disappear, die, whatever, however if it's a vendor here, they would be out of business quickly as soon as you reported it in their thread and showed proof.

The odds of you being the one person they rob before going out of business are extremely slim. Stick with high volume vendors if you're nervous. With many transactions a day any issues would quickly be apparent in the thread and you could avoid making an order. That said, I've never seen that happen here.

 

[tsantsa]

How do we check blockchain for the transaction details?

 

[bigboy420]

How do we check blockchain for the transaction details?

Go on the blockchain. Every transaction you make can be traced by everyone.

 

[diamondsshining]

if they scam you with crypto there is nothing you can, however they have their reputation at stake. you can post on their forums and no one will no longer want to buy from them if you have evidence to your claims. however the larger problems would be selective scamming (sending packages to some clients while not sending to others) so they have plausible deniability with regards to scamming, and exit scamming which is just taking in money for orders and never fulfilling them and eventually disappear with the money. really nothing you can do unless there is an escrow system but that requires a larger market maintaining the infrastructure for all of that. just have to go by word of mouth and trust in crypto

 

[BigDadd7]

Relax bro. You bought drugs on the black market. You don't get a hand shake and a business card.

 

[biggerben69]

If you are ripped off you bring me all the pertinent info and I go to work letting them know that if they don't take care of meso member "whomever" they not only will be done selling here at meso but they more than likely will have to completely re-brand because I've been known to stalk scamming sources to the far corners of the net to ruin them.

Re-branding isn't a sure thing either. If I find out the new name of the lab through investigating things like where orders ship from, IP addresses, etc, the re-brand could be a waste.

Now, if you were to turn out to be a reverse scammer all the shit I give sources I give to reverse scammers twice as hard. If you forget to turn on your VPN and find out who I'm dealing with I'll go after not only the reverse scammer but also friends and family members. But if you are on the up and up its all good.

 

[Lilstuff]

Relax bro. You bought drugs on the black market. You don't get a hand shake and a business card.

Sure. But its still a business and we have to worry about peoples safety. Both financial and health wise.

While very limited with what can be done to black market businesses in the form of accountability, that doesn't give them the right to run rough shot over everyone.

There does seem to be some very credible sources on the forums here. And to have a long lucrative career its best they have good business practices like any other business.

So while I nor anyone is expecting a hand shake and a business card, this community does need to look out for each other to an extent.

 

[bigboy420]

give them a bad Google review. So is there any sort of repercussions for bad vendors on the Meso forums?

Review is you create a thread with proof and cry hard.
Aslong as you read everything on meso and have some logic you wont get scammed ever unless unlucky

 

[Lilstuff]

If you are ripped off you bring me all the pertinent info and I go to work letting them know that if they don't take care of meso member "whomever" they not only will be done selling here at meso but they more than likely will have to completely re-brand because I've been known to stalk scamming sources to the far corners of the net to ruin them.

Re-branding isn't a sure thing either. If I find out the new name of the lab through investigating things like where orders ship from, IP addresses, etc, the re-brand could be a waste.

Now, if you were to turn out to be a reverse scammer all the shit I give sources I give to reverse scammers twice as hard. If you forget to turn on your VPN and find out who I'm dealing with I'll go after not only the reverse scammer but also friends and family members. But if you are on the up and up its all good.

Must say I like your style.

As it is I got my first order after a mess up on my part. IE inverted my own address and three hundred dollars out the window. (wondering what drugs I was on at the time to make such a stupid mistake).

This particular vendor has been having problems with reverse scammers so that was a bit of a concern with me. Didnt want him to think I was trying to scam him and get blocked.

But everything turned out good and its good to know the community is looking out for each other.