What went wrong with my cycle?

b1on1c.ch33tah

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I am looking for answers from the brain trust on this board.

Here are my stats: 37 years old, 6’5”, 230 lbs. I have run a Test only cycle in the past with some success.

Current cycle as follows (was suggested as a good 12 week stack for “Lean Bulking”):

Weeks 1-12: Test Cyp at 600mg/week
Weeks 1-8: Equipoise at 400mg/week
Weeks 6-12: Tren Ace at 100mg/EOD

Weeks 1-4: added a DBol kicker at 50mg/day

Arimidex at .5mg/EOD throughout the cycle.

Calories at +500 over maintenance on training days and right at maintenance on rest days. I am a nutrition freak, so I track this component very closely, and have logs and daily breakdowns if anyone needs this info.

The problems started from the beginning, when I saw no noticeable impact from the Dbol. I understood that this would put some size on out of the gate. But nothing. No aggression. No strength gains. No size gains. Nothing. I wasn’t as concerned about the Test Cyp and EQ during these first 4 weeks, because I know they are slow acting esters.

Six weeks in, however, I was still seeing no impact from the gear. And by nothing, I mean no good impact, but also no bad side effects. No acne. No “shrinkage”. No strength gains. No weight gain. Again. No changes from the day-to-day training prior to starting this cycle.

At this point, I reached out to the supplier. He indicated that the problem might be the ester (Test Cyp) and that he thought the EQ might actually be hindering my gains. This didn’t explain the lack of ANY other noticeable impacts, but I decided to stay the course and see if the addition of Tren Ace would make an impact.

Week six, I started running Tren Ace at 100 mg EOD. I am now in the middle of Week 3 running Test Cyp 600/week and Tren A 100/EOD. Still haven’t felt anything. Based on the reputation of Tren, I found this odd. I was expecting sweats, cough, aggression…SOMETHING.

Now I sit in the middle of Week 9, and I haven't gained a single pound from the beginning of the cycle. (Started at 230, still at 230.) But more concerning no side effects.

Any thoughts on what might have gone wrong?

I spent $400 on this gear, and at this point don't know that I'll ever run a cycle again. Return on my investment just isn't there...
 
Before, yes. Because I am on prescription TRT at 200mg/week.

Not during. I have timed this cycle between visits to my doc to prevent raising eyebrows at my numbers.

Other than blood tests, any other way to test whether I got bunk gear?
 
You're gear has to be bunk if what you're saying is true. Also, you're supplier is an idiot for saying EQ would hinder your gains. You should have at least been getting good pumps from the Dbol within a week to 10 days.

In the future, if you get real EQ, you need to run it at least 12 weeks to get good effects from it IMO.
 
You're still at week 9, a blood test would give you a definitive answer on whether or not your gear is bunk. It's probably what I would do in your situation. But it doesn't sound promising from what you've told us.

Where did you find your source local/online?
 
You got bad shit dude. Spend the $50 to get blood work done, there's a thread in this section of the forum by thinkananabolic2 on how to order the test online.

Just because the ROI isn't there this time doesn't mean you shouldn't try again. Just make sure you go with a legit source next time.

Get the bloods done and show them to your source, hopefully he'll make it right. Who did you get it from?
 
GR your avatar reminds me of the chick "Starla" from Napoleon Dynamite.

B1 - your gear is bunk bro. It sucks to get burned, but don't feel to bad, anyone who says it's never happened to them, hasn't been around that long. Check out some of the open sources on this board. I haven't personally used any of them (I have used Sciroxx gear which SF remails, and that brand is GTG), but that should get you started.

Stay off the open source boards. They sold you some snake oil.

And like GR said - let us know the brand. It's important to expose the scammers!
 
everything you have mentioned points to bunk gear. everything. I would out that source if they dont make it right- if they are a selective scammer maybe you'll get some good stuff to shut you up. otherwise and maybe in spite of, i would still be thinking about smearing the shit out of their 'good' name. that sucks to invest all that time, money, and health risks (just from injecting oil), and get nothing. You have waited more than long enough to know.
 
GR your avatar reminds me of the chick "Starla" from Napoleon Dynamite.

B1 - your gear is bunk bro. It sucks to get burned, but don't feel to bad, anyone who says it's never happened to them, hasn't been around that long. Check out some of the open sources on this board. I haven't personally used any of them (I have used Sciroxx gear which SF remails, and that brand is GTG), but that should get you started.

Stay off the open source boards. They sold you some snake oil.

And like GR said - let us know the brand. It's important to expose the scammers!

DYS!!!! You know you just told him to stay away from open source boards and then told him in the paragraph before to use open sources on this board. lol Is that the same thing? I'm just messing with you buddy!

What DYS is trying to say is the MESO guys drill the open sources here and make sure they are legit.

mands
 
DYS!!!! You know you just told him to stay away from open source boards and then told him in the paragraph before to use open sources on this board. lol Is that the same thing? I'm just messing with you buddy!

What DYS is trying to say is the MESO guys drill the open sources here and make sure they are legit.

mands

HAHAHA! Nice catch. Foot meet mouth.
 
The supplier is now suggesting that maybe my body "doesn't respond" to the compounds?

Is that even possible?

To "not respond" to DBol OR Test Cyp OR EQ OR Tren Ace?!?!

Says my situation must be "unique" and that replacing the gear would not be a "good idea" and that providing a refund "is not how this business is run". Seriously?!?!

I feel like I'm getting the run around...
 
The supplier is now suggesting that maybe my body "doesn't respond" to the compounds?

Is that even possible?

To "not respond" to DBol OR Test Cyp OR EQ OR Tren Ace?!?!

Says my situation must be "unique" and that replacing the gear would not be a "good idea" and that providing a refund "is not how this business is run". Seriously?!?!

I feel like I'm getting the run around...

BULLSHIT!! Only way to show him is to get the blood work done.

Now come on OP, out with the name!! :cool:
 
Your supplier who says he's your friend is not your friend and he's laughing all the way to the bank with your money.

It happened to be with someone who I though was my friend.

I recommend you see how he "responds" to your fist in his face, or your dick in his girl.

This is the nice thing about a local connection. You can reach out to someone who scams you. Old school style.

No response to gear? Not unless you're from mars.
 
yeah bro sounds like not good gear. Im older so my body doesnt respond to gear like it did when I was younger you could see immediate changes now it takes longer for gear to affect me and make body changes...
 
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