Where them cycle experts at??

[BigSwoldier]

Hey all,
I need some expert advice with my next cycle. My stats are 23 yrs old, 5'10'', 185lbs, 6% BF. This is going to be my second cycle and I'm looking on adding 10-12 pounds with this one. My first cycle consisted of 500mg Omna for eight weeks. I gained eighteen pounds with this one and I ended up keeping 10 of those. With this cycle, I really want to keep the bloat off because it is a killer on my knees if I'm going to do anything active. This is what I have to work with and what I have come up with...

Week 1
Mon. 250 mg Sust. and 50 mg Prop.
Wed. 100 mg Prop.
Fri. 250 mg Sust. and 50 mg Prop.

Week 2
same as week 1

Week 3
same as week 1

Week 4
Mon. 250 mg Test Cyp.
Fri. 250 mg Test Cyp.

Week 5
same as week 4

Week 6
same as week 4

Week 7
same as week 4, also adding 50mg Winny every day

Week 8
same as week 4, also adding 50mg Winny every day

Week 9
50 mg Winny every day

Week 10
50 mg Winny every day


Week 11 - 13 is PCT with Clomid(300mg first day, 100mg next 10 days, and 50mg the following 10 days). I will also be running .25 mg Arimi. a day and I have Novla for any other problems. Please give me any advice you can. Thanks.

 

[THL]

Your cycle is kind of odd. I'm not saying you wouldn't reach your goals
but maybe we can work something out a little better.

How much of each do you actually have to work with?

 

[Blind180]

Kinda odd that a littl bloat frorm test causes pain?? Your choice of winny will dry out your joints and cause more pain than test bloat?? Both times I have run winny my elbows, shoulders and knees are fucking killing me. I am very active as well as I play several sports plus spend alot of time in the gym and winny does not work well with my body but thats just me. You are quit a bit youger than me so you may not have as many problems with the winny.

 

[THL]

Kinda odd that a littl bloat frorm test causes pain?? Your choice of winny will dry out your joints and cause more pain than test bloat?? Both times I have run winny my elbows, shoulders and knees are fucking killing me. I am very active as well as I play several sports plus spend alot of time in the gym and winny does not work well with my body but thats just me. You are quit a bit youger than me so you may not have as many problems with the winny.

Good point Bind180.

 

[Deacon]

keep it simple bro

use cyp all the way through run it at 250-500 mgs per week

use d-bol weeks 1-4 at 30 mgs per day

use the winny the last 3 weeks 20 - 30 mgs per day to harden up


I would not suggest using sus- prop and then switching to cyp mid cycle.

 

[skywalk]

Hey all,
I need some expert advice with my next cycle. My stats are 23 yrs old, 5'10'', 185lbs, 6% BF. This is going to be my second cycle and I'm looking on adding 10-12 pounds with this one. My first cycle consisted of 500mg Omna for eight weeks. I gained eighteen pounds with this one and I ended up keeping 10 of those. With this cycle, I really want to keep the bloat off because it is a killer on my knees if I'm going to do anything active. This is what I have to work with and what I have come up with...

Week 1
Mon. 250 mg Sust. and 50 mg Prop.
Wed. 100 mg Prop.
Fri. 250 mg Sust. and 50 mg Prop.

Week 2
same as week 1

Week 3
same as week 1

Week 4
Mon. 250 mg Test Cyp.
Fri. 250 mg Test Cyp.

Week 5
same as week 4

Week 6
same as week 4

Week 7
same as week 4, also adding 50mg Winny every day

Week 8
same as week 4, also adding 50mg Winny every day

Week 9
50 mg Winny every day

Week 10
50 mg Winny every day


Week 11 - 13 is PCT with Clomid(300mg first day, 100mg next 10 days, and 50mg the following 10 days). I will also be running .25 mg Arimi. a day and I have Novla for any other problems. Please give me any advice you can. Thanks.

A couple of tweaks that I recommend:
test esters:
You added prop for 3 weeks...fast acting ester till cyp kicks in. Good idea but I think it's only needed for 2 weeks. I would bump up the dosage to 100mg EOD.
I would also use it week 9 and 10, as the cyp is clearing out of your system, at 150mg EOD.

Joint pain:
if you're prone to bloat, 0.5mg arimidex ED would be good. femara at 2.5mg EOD is a better choice.
Scrap the winny and use tren instead. 75-100mg EOD, with your prop injections.
Extend your cycle to 11 weeks. I like to allow 3 weeks for cyp to clear out of the system. You'll be using prop instead.
if you really want to use the winny, you can still add the tren. Your strength and vascularity will go through the roof these last couple of weeks, provided you have a proper diet.

PCT:
start 4 days after after the last shot of prop and tren.
I hate clomid. it is less effective than nolvadex, and has shitloads of side effects.
I like to do this:
1) arimidex 0.5 ED for 10days OR femara 2.5mg EOD for 10 days
2) Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 - 4 weeks
3) HCG 1500iu EOD for 10 days

Skywalk

 

[joe shmoe]

why the switch from sust to cyp??

have a nice day