Will I see gains from 4 weeks of Tren ?

Monstrocity said:
I'm currently running Tren, Masteron, Winny, Anavar, and Primo in my pre-contest stack and have started having gyno problems again since I started the tren. Will prolactin buildup cause the gyno? I have plent of bromocriptine on hand, but have never used it before. Does anyone know how it should be taken? I've read most people take it in one dose in the morning, but I don't want to fuck anything up. I'm only 27 days out from competition right now. Any advice would be appreciated.

Monstrocity


If you can buy Dostinex way better than Bromo,

Bromo-usage take a half a tab at night then the other half in the morning

Dostinex-usage take half tab on Monday and the other half on thursday-works for me.


fina
 
finafreak said:
If you can buy Dostinex way better than Bromo,

Bromo-usage take a half a tab at night then the other half in the morning

Dostinex-usage take half tab on Monday and the other half on thursday-works for me.


fina

Monstrocity,
If you wouldn't mind what is your dosage on the tren, because I was under the assumption that the winny should ave helped out there. Also did you consider or know anything about vitex to take care of prolactin. Thanks.
 
I'm running 125mg / ed of tren and also 40 mg of nolva and 1mg of arimidex. I'm very gyno prone....especially to dbol, anadrol, and suspension, but seem to always be able to control it with the normal anti-e's. I really need to get rid of this shit though since I'll be on stage in less than 30 days. I've never heard of the other 2 products mentioned. I went out today and bought some chaste berry extract....do you think it will help?

Monstrocity
 
I'm telling you from personal experience that you will see significant gains. Tren is the hardest hitting shit I have ever experienced. In four weeks I seen a huge gain in size and strength not to mention a wonderful bald spot right on the crown of my head!
 
Lanceromance1 said:
I'm telling you from personal experience that you will see significant gains. Tren is the hardest hitting shit I have ever experienced. In four weeks I seen a huge gain in size and strength not to mention a wonderful bald spot right on the crown of my head!


Monstrocity,
Thats what the vitex is, I would definitely take it. It's supposed to be great for fighting prolactin caused gyno. Also B6 I beleive. I found a womens supplement called femaprin that I'm going to use, it's made by natures way. Check it out.
 
Lanceromance1 said:
I'm telling you from personal experience that you will see significant gains. Tren is the hardest hitting shit I have ever experienced. In four weeks I seen a huge gain in size and strength not to mention a wonderful bald spot right on the crown of my head!


lance--did you have thinning hair before?

did the hair loss stop after you stopped the tren
 
will tren make you retain water?

Most all the research I've done says that tren does not aromatize, but I definitely think it's making me hold a lot of water. I know that none of the other drugs I'm running aromatize, so I'm assuming it's the prolactin buildup from the tren. I've been taking vitex now for 2 days (1500mg/day) but it hasn't seemed to do anything yet. Should I reduce my dosage? Currently at 125mg/ed. I'm only 25 days out from contest and am starting to worry about the excess water bloat I've gotten. Any suggestions?

Monstrocity
 
Monstrocity said:
Most all the research I've done says that tren does not aromatize, but I definitely think it's making me hold a lot of water. I know that none of the other drugs I'm running aromatize, so I'm assuming it's the prolactin buildup from the tren. I've been taking vitex now for 2 days (1500mg/day) but it hasn't seemed to do anything yet. Should I reduce my dosage? Currently at 125mg/ed. I'm only 25 days out from contest and am starting to worry about the excess water bloat I've gotten. Any suggestions?

Monstrocity

Start taking Lasix at a low dose,with some Dostinex,.Ive said it before Vitex doesn't do shit but raise your progesterone levels through the roof.IMO

good luck


fina
 
finafreak said:
You have proof?

fina

The real question is...Does anybody?

http://www.basskilleronline.com/finaplixfaqs.html#26

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/oestrogen-progesterone.asp

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread/t-828.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread/t-21.html


Progestational Activity

It has been reported in other bodybuilding literature that trenbolone does not exhibit any activity as a progestin in the body. I am not certain where this belief originated, as trenbolone does appear to exhibit the classic progesterone receptor binding ability that is characteristic of nandrolone and its derivatives. One study looking at the bovine uterine progesterone receptor for example found trenbolone to be a very potent binder, startlingly even more so than progesterone itself (4). Another looking at the binding of various compounds to the androgen, estrogen, progestin, mineral corticoid and glucocorticoid receptors found trenbolone to be a more potent binder of the progestin receptor than nandrolone (5), a steroid normally noted for its usual activity in this regard. What does this mean for trenbolone? I dont think it really means that much. Trenbolone clearly doesnt cause gyno, water retention or fat buildup, which one might attribute to estrogenic or progestational activity. So whatever slight action it does have as a progestin on paper doesnt amount to all that much in the real world. The absence of estrogen may be a significant factor, as progesterone is believed to cause gyno by enhancing estrogens stimulation of mammary gland growth (6). Perhaps when trenbolone is taken with other aromatizable compounds it could affect a persons sensitivity level to gyno and water/fat retention. This seems logical, at least in a technical sense, although admittedly I have seen no evidence to support this.

above from muscle monthly 2001 tren part 1
 
brooklynheight- Yeah I have a receeding hairline. I never had thinning hair or a baldspot before the fina. I have a genetic predisposition for baldness so any strong AAS is going to aggravate it. My hair grew back gradually after I discontinued use. It was a slow growth back. I use rogain religously and 5mg of proscar in addition. The proscar is useless against Tren but I take it regularly anyhow. It's really strange..I don't think I'll go completely bald but I will definately have widows peaks. The bitch about losing hair is that there really isn't much you can do to stop it. Supposedly they will have a proceedure to grow back you own hair if you bald sometime next year. I'm optimistic about it.
 
dzl66 said:
The real question is...Does anybody?

http://www.basskilleronline.com/finaplixfaqs.html#26

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/oestrogen-progesterone.asp

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread/t-828.html

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread/t-21.html


Progestational Activity

It has been reported in other bodybuilding literature that trenbolone does not exhibit any activity as a progestin in the body. I am not certain where this belief originated, as trenbolone does appear to exhibit the classic progesterone receptor binding ability that is characteristic of nandrolone and its derivatives. One study looking at the bovine uterine progesterone receptor for example found trenbolone to be a very potent binder, startlingly even more so than progesterone itself (4). Another looking at the binding of various compounds to the androgen, estrogen, progestin, mineral corticoid and glucocorticoid receptors found trenbolone to be a more potent binder of the progestin receptor than nandrolone (5), a steroid normally noted for its usual activity in this regard. What does this mean for trenbolone? I dont think it really means that much. Trenbolone clearly doesnt cause gyno, water retention or fat buildup, which one might attribute to estrogenic or progestational activity. So whatever slight action it does have as a progestin on paper doesnt amount to all that much in the real world. The absence of estrogen may be a significant factor, as progesterone is believed to cause gyno by enhancing estrogens stimulation of mammary gland growth (6). Perhaps when trenbolone is taken with other aromatizable compounds it could affect a persons sensitivity level to gyno and water/fat retention. This seems logical, at least in a technical sense, although admittedly I have seen no evidence to support this.

above from muscle monthly 2001 tren part 1


Good job Dzl66!

They made a good point,here.and that was what i was saying also about vitex
HERE IS SOMETHING A COPIED AND PASTED

The only thing that can combat Fina-induced Gyno is:

1. 2.5mgs Bromocriptine broken down to 1.25mgs 2X/day
AM and PM.

Thats it.

No Vitex/Nolva/Clomid/Arimidex or whatever. They don't
work for Fina.


Good info


finafreak
 
Thanks for the info bros. I guess I'm just gonna have to use bromo and see what happens. I took one 2.5 mg tab the other night and felt really fucked up and extremely tired. I'll try breaking it into am and pm dose instead.

Monstrocity
 
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