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Phreezer said:You're not even sure how to put a cycle together Anabolic freak, and yet you post in everyone's threads offering advice..... That doesn't make a lot of sense... If you do not even know that deca takes longer to clear than test..who are you to offer advice to anyone on what they should or should not do in a cycle?
Oh yeah, and to answer your question...All Winstrol sucks..It causes cellular necrosis, and is probably more responsable for muscle tears and serious injury than any other two AAS combined.
Both oral and injectable are hard on the liver..They are virtualy the same..except you need to take a higher oral dose to achieve the same results.
oldman said:About how long does it take for you guys to notice the joint pain?
I'm on day 6 of 50mg/day and my left shoulder is noticably pained (old teenage injury). It seems that 5 days is too quick for an effect but maybe not? I figured it got sore because I've been pushing hard on the shoulders. A few ibuprophens allow me to work the shoulders and chest but...maybe winny is a bad thing for me...
