working on important cycle

[ronnievanzant]

Alright fellas, I have a rare opportunity to get a nice long cycle in and I want to make the most of it. I'm normally subject to drug tests (NCAA), but I won't be for a while. I just put this together tonight, so I'm open to any suggestions. It's pretty rough also.

50mg dbol days 1-10, 35mg until week 5
test ~700mg/week week 1-10 (haven't decided on which ester...maybe cyp)
tren 75mg/day weeks 6-10
anavar 25mg/day weeks 8-10
nolvas on hand (i want to minimize water retention...not prone to gyno, should I just go ahead and take nolva throughout at 10 or 20 mgs?)

500 I.U./day HCG last 10 days (maybe up this?)
clomid 100mg/day for 5 days....50mg/day for 5 days, 25mg/day for another week or two.

At least 2, maybe 3 kits of HGH. Maybe start in the beginning or middle of cycle at about 6 I.U. Using the GH mainly to avoid injury and help keep gains.

I know it's pretty rough, but I'd appreciate any feedback. I'm 6'3" 245, 12% bf, know how to eat and workout. looking to maybe gain 10-15 pounds and get fast and strong.

-Ronnie Van Zant

 

[Grizzly]

Fast and strong is a function of training for those particular goals.

All in all, I don't see anything wrong with your cycle. I don't think the anavar will add anything, but it won't hurt anything either. I also don't think it's "good and long". A 10 weeker is child's play, really.

 

[ronnievanzant]

I know 10 weeks isn't long by most standards, but it's twice as long as I'm normally able to cycle. Why do you think the anavar won't add anything?

Fast and strong is a function of training for those particular goals.

All in all, I don't see anything wrong with your cycle. I don't think the anavar will add anything, but it won't hurt anything either. I also don't think it's "good and long". A 10 weeker is child's play, really.

 

[einstein1905]

To get the longest cycle in in the time you have, I'd use prop instead and run it longer. I'd also run the fina longer. I love anavar, so I'd keep that. With the GH, I'd start immediately. If you can afford 6IU/day, go for it. I'd run both nolva and Ldex throughout, including pct. Nolva at 10mg/day until pct, where it goes to 20mg/day. Ldex at 0.25mg/day throughout. I think extending it a couple extra weeks with prop and increasing the fina duration will help you a lot.

I wouldn't use nearly that much HCG for that much time. After a ten weeker or so. I can get by just fine with just 500IU of HCG back to back days....maybe 3 days back to back. No reason to go overboard unless you know you respond slowly. The clomid I'd do as I normally do. 300mg day 1 , 150mgs days 2-11, 100 mgs days 12-21.

 

[ad234]

Looks o.k.

The cycle basics look fine. Minor tweaks would be running the tren a couple of weeks longer (or even the whole 10 weeks if no anavar) if you are happy with the gains since tren is in/out of your system very fast (daily) and won't carry over into your PCT. This is your first longer cycle in awhile so 8-10 weeks of tren instead of 6 would be fine. If you want to save some money, 2 weeks of anavar could be taken out b/c after fina and dball, 2 weeks of anavar is going to seem like a drop in the bucket (but if $ is no concern it can't hurt to throw/keep it in there). I would keep the clomid at 50mgs straight through instead of dropping it to 25mgs, clomid doesn't bind all that well mg for mg (next to nolva for example) so 50mgs would be better straight through, plus it is your PCT for a cycle longer than you usually do, so do your best to keep your gains since you will shut down more on this 10 weeker compared to your normal 5 weekers. The clomid is inexpensive compared to the rest of the cycle so it won't cost you much more to take 50mgs instead of 25 for that extra week or two. I know people who take a lot more clomid for longer periods of time because you just never know how long it will take for your HPTA to come back from cycle-cycle, better safe and have more on hand and use it than to feel like you needed more.

 

[ronnievanzant]

Thanks for the input everyone. I will probably hold off on the anavar to save a little cash. I might just go ahead and do the tren for the entire cycle. My cycle length really depends on how fast of a turn around I get from my source, but I think prop sounds like a pretty good choice given the short amount of time. I may get a bottle of suspension do hit at the end so that I can go a little longer without drug testing concerns. I appreciate the help so far.

-Ronnie Van Zant

 

[ronnievanzant]

"tren is detectable for 5-6 months"

Someone please explain this to me. I've seen the same shit on a few websites. If tren is in your system for 5-6 months, why do we inject it ED or EOD? I'm assuming the metabolites remain in your system? 5-6 months just seems like a ridiculous amount of time.

-RVZ

 

[Deacon]

same thing as smoking dope bro - maryjane can be detected for months later because it stores in the fat cells - however the active drug THC is gone and you aint stoned for three months - same with gear - it can still be detected in the body even though the active ingrediants are gone.