wrapping my head around my bloodwork

[fightingfires]

Does this make any sense to you guys.....maybe I'm just too tired to think about it straight...

was taking homebrewed test C 250mg/ml 1 shot per week of .7ml (trt dose)
48 hrs after shot my bloods showed 1148.9 ng/dl

Same jug 6 months later (and yes I always swirl it before I draw it out)
split the dose into 2 shots. One shot is .35ml on Sunday morning, one shot .35ml on Wed evening
same strength, same jug. This time my bloods come back at 688 ng/dl after 48hrs

how is this possible? What is my mind not seeing here?

Is it simply that I am not having the large peak from the full dose once a week?

 

[Docd187123]

Yes. Split dosing lowers the peak when compared to a single larger dose of the same amount provided you're still injecting within the a of life period.

 

[fightingfires]

Thanks Doc.....I kinda figured that just didnt think it would be that drastic a drop.
May do bloods again in 5 weeks or so to verify. Thanks for getting back to me on this.

 

[RThoads]

That is the purpose of the split dosing; you get a much smoother level the more you split the dosage--less pronounced peaks and valleys.

Sounds like a decent good result to me as I split my Watson and I am about the same value.

 

[fightingfires]

Thanks RThoads. Its bang on identical to the pharma I get from the trt doctor. So I totally lucked on on the supplier of the raw. Can't really say to much though as I did get it about 8 months or so and we all know how the raw game goes. At least I bought enough to last me a lifetime in one go. So Test C I am good for....just wish some other compounds were equally lucky to stumble on after only trying 2 suppliers

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Does this make any sense to you guys.....maybe I'm just too tired to think about it straight...

was taking homebrewed test C 250mg/ml 1 shot per week of .7ml (trt dose)
48 hrs after shot my bloods showed 1148.9 ng/dl

Same jug 6 months later (and yes I always swirl it before I draw it out)
split the dose into 2 shots. One shot is .35ml on Sunday morning, one shot .35ml on Wed evening
same strength, same jug. This time my bloods come back at 688 ng/dl after 48hrs

how is this possible? What is my mind not seeing here?

Is it simply that I am not having the large peak from the full dose once a week?

Sorry, am I reading that right? 1148 after 250mg shot = 4.5x
688 after 250mg split = 2.7x

I'm just seeing others experiences. Looking at those numbers it appears you would be a low responder like me. I'm just curious as how many their are. I've never surpassed 5x on a split dosing schedule all measured at 48 hrs post pin

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Sorry, am I reading that right? 1148 after 250mg shot = 4.5x
688 after 250mg split = 2.7x

I'm just seeing others experiences. Looking at those numbers it appears you would be a low responder like me. I'm just curious as how many their are. I've never surpassed 5x on a split dosing schedule all measured at 48 hrs post pin

Agreed, unless this is the first injection and his serum test has not spooled up from weekly injections.

 

[fightingfires]

gr8whitetrukker.... the 1148ng/dl was running a total of 175mg per week in a single shot

the 688ng/dl was from running 175mg per week split into two equal shots.

both from the same jug. And both after trying each dosing schedule out for a min of 5 weeks.

Big thing I did come up with though is....Direct labs whom I ordered from stopped using Labcorp for their testing and instead went with quest labs.

with Labcorp the "reference range" was from 348-1197 ng/dl
Quest labs "reference range" is listed as 250-827 ng/dl

Is Quest somehow going with a totally different range? I mean ng/dl is still ng/dl
something just seems really odd.

Using the steroidplot graph with both dosing scheduals shows they should be more or less about the same levels at the time of testing. Why one is way lower than the other I cannot figure out

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I see mistake on my part.
Reference ranges shouldn't matter. They are just references. That wouldn't effect the reading in any way

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Appreciate the knowledge tho FF. I never did my labs with a 1 shot schedule. I'm gonna have to give it a different protocol next time to see where I stand. I've always done splits and when I see my numbers I'm shocked like some thing doesn't matchup...4x doesn't match what I'm building. Either that or testosterone doesn't have as big of a role in building muscle as we thought. I think the former

 

[fightingfires]

Either that or testosterone doesn't have as big of a role in building muscle as we thought. I think the former

I have the exact feeling. When I got diagnosed with low T....I was way below the bottom of the range. Endo said it was the level of a 70 yr old. Any yet I was still pretty damn muscular. Even then I was 5'6" and 200lbs with maybe 15% BF

Also I have never came close to 10x.....I do at the very best with dr prescribed Test E around 6-7x
I hear guys saying that 100mg of Test E puts them at 1000ng/dl......I run 175mg and my numbers have always ranged from 700-1100
Not sure how guys get away with running almost half of that and bettering my levels

 

[Docd187123]

Not sure how guys get away with running almost half of that and bettering my levels

The time between the last injection and blood work, whether they take a single weekly dose or split dose, the metabolism of the test, the total blood volume, etc etc