Biologic Pharma Are Scammers

[bigpoppachump]

Wow Ben that was a very eye opening post about how the scam works. But what is the max take on a scam like that? And if it is spread out between 3 or more people it seems like more work than its worth no?

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Great job inspector..LMAO!!

 

[bigpoppachump]

Not thinking of starting up a scam. Just amazed at all the work put into these kind of rip off schemes that only net the perpetrators a couple grand each.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Wow Ben that was a very eye opening post about how the scam works. But what is the max take on a scam like that? And if it is spread out between 3 or more people it seems like more work than its worth no?

On the big scammer boards like ProMuscle where the mods protect the source and allow the scam to continue for weeks, even a simple AAS scam could result in six figure losses for the customers. GH scams could easily result in losses far higher than that.

And these labs don't disappear when the scam is complete. They resurface under a new name and repeat the process time and again.

 

[bickel29]

When this first started with PC getting involved with Bio, I couldn't understand how he could be so stupid. He's been around long enough to know how this works, so why is he falling for MIC's bullshit? Why can't he see what we see?

I'm unable to come up with a good answer. The only thing I can think of is PC isn't in his right mind.

I don't know CBS, I think you might be overthinking it. I really think it could just be PC's ego that is driving this. He has always been very eager to see his name in lights - so much so that he puts himself out there in ways the rest of us think are "insane". But Pericles doesn't see it as insane. He sees it as his way of promoting himself, a way to build on the legend of Pericles.

Think about it, if you were working with a known athlete or bodybuilder, like he says he is, would you EVER come on here and name that individual? Would you post pics of the two of you together?

If you were involved in the things that many of us are involved in, would you EVER post links to youtube videos that show you talking at length, up close?

If you were to get involved in the operations of a wide-open UGL, would you EVER announce your position in the company and openly brag about your involvement?

This type of behavior by PC is nothing new - as evidenced by the examples above. This is who he is, and has been. And it is all driven by his ego.

That's just how I see it, though I could be wrong.

 

[biggerben69]

Not thinking of starting up a scam. Just amazed at all the work put into these kind of rip off schemes that only net the perpetrators a couple grand each.

Way off, partner. Meso is a big board. ProM is a big board. Meso is a great all around board. There are members that have been here forever that have never posted in this little underground forum. The board has so much more to offer than just the bullshit I post.
Pro M is there for 1 reason. Sell. So much untaxed cash being exchanged and that board is the conduit. One day it will happen. The feds will decide to make that board it's focus. Big Al won't be at his desk in his suburban home. He's insulated himself and put layers between him and LE. Not to say he's untouchable. The owner of Asia Pharma made "Kingpin" status when our Pres Obama but him there. He sits next to Chapo "Shorty" Guzman, head of the murderous Sinoloa Cartel. To say he's got attention is an understatement. World Pharma is in bed with them and apparently not getting dressed anytime soon.
Outlawmuscle board owner, John Russo, and one of his boards all time fav sources, Thorus, were indicted by the Feds in 2002 for money laundering and steroid distribution. They were co defendants. OLM was mentioned several times in that indictment. According to public records made public after 2002 and accessible on pacer.gov the 2 were given time served and not much else is known. Anyone that is unfortunate to have felt the wrath of the feds knows that cooperation and a 5k1 is the only way things get confusing. The federal sentencing guidelines make things simplistic. The guidelines takes the human factor out of the equation. Makes the judge a non factor as well as the prosecutor unless you play ball. The sentences the feds hand out make playing ball the only option for most, in which case, the United States attorney becomes Godlike.
I get side tracked so easily.

I don't know CBS, I think you might be overthinking it. I really think it could just be PC's ego that is driving this. He has always been very eager to see his name in lights - so much so that he puts himself out there in ways the rest of us think are "insane". But Pericles doesn't see it as insane. He sees it as his way of promoting himself, a way to build on the legend of Pericles.

Think about it, if you were working with a known athlete or bodybuilder, like he says he is, would you EVER come on here and name that individual? Would you post pics of the two of you together?

If you were involved in the things that many of us are involved in, would you EVER post links to youtube videos that show you talking at length, up close?

If you were to get involved in the operations of a wide-open UGL, would you EVER announce your position in the company and openly brag about your involvement?

This type of behavior by PC is nothing new - as evidenced by the examples above. This is who he is, and has been. And it is all driven by his ego.

That's just how I see it, though I could be wrong.

Ya. I'm with you. I remember when peri was so worried about losing his cash in the group buy. He was all in there. If he lost that cash it was as if he had nowhere to turn. I was embarrassed for him. He was kissing ass when the others were writing it off.
I don't know if everyone knows how important mugzy was in people not getting fucked? I know peri doesn't. Mugz and regular came in and mugz put stretch's feet to the fire. Guys don't know and i maybe I'm not supposed to talk about it but I don't see the harm now in bringing this up...CBS, myself, regular, and mugz, met at a different location several times to put our thoughts and heads together to come up with a strategy on how to go at stretch and to get kits or cash for members. If that wasn't possible(i thought the cash was gone) how to expose him to you all and get his face and personal info to those who got burned.
In the end members got their stuff. I have pm's from mic where he';s talking nicely and trying to get in with me just before people started getting kits. It was as if he was trying to recruit me. I disappointed him. Was it stretch i was speaking with? Maybe.
He got to peri. Got him some biz cards and gave him a title. Peri felt as if he had finally arrived. A nut? Certainly. Delusions of grandeur? All day long. Simpleton? Yes. Do I like peri. I do.
People still say that it's the internet and pretend. When there is the amount of money involved that there is in our community this is impossible. Sitting in a prison cell away from your family for 5 yrs helps with the reality part. The internet is such a big part of our daily lives to say that it's pretend and fake is ignorant. There are varying degrees to which it influences folks. At the moment it's the biggest thing in peri's life. All encompassing. A monster. I, for one, am interested in seeing how it all plays out.

 

[brutus79]

Way off, partner. Meso is a big board. ProM is a big board. Meso is a great all around board. There are members that have been here forever that have never posted in this little underground forum. The board has so much more to offer than just the bullshit I post.
Pro M is there for 1 reason. Sell. So much untaxed cash being exchanged and that board is the conduit. One day it will happen. The feds will decide to make that board it's focus. Big Al won't be at his desk in his suburban home. He's insulated himself and put layers between him and LE. Not to say he's untouchable. The owner of Asia Pharma made "Kingpin" status when our Pres Obama but him there. He sits next to Chapo "Shorty" Guzman, head of the murderous Sinoloa Cartel. To say he's got attention is an understatement. World Pharma is in bed with them and apparently not getting dressed anytime soon.
Outlawmuscle board owner, John Russo, and one of his boards all time fav sources, Thorus, were indicted by the Feds in 2002 for money laundering and steroid distribution. They were co defendants. OLM was mentioned several times in that indictment. According to public records made public after 2002 and accessible on pacer.gov the 2 were given time served and not much else is known. Anyone that is unfortunate to have felt the wrath of the feds knows that cooperation and a 5k1 is the only way things get confusing. The federal sentencing guidelines make things simplistic. The guidelines takes the human factor out of the equation. Makes the judge a non factor as well as the prosecutor unless you play ball. The sentences the feds hand out make playing ball the only option for most, in which case, the United States attorney becomes Godlike.
I get side tracked so easily.


Ya. I'm with you. I remember when peri was so worried about losing his cash in the group buy. He was all in there. If he lost that cash it was as if he had nowhere to turn. I was embarrassed for him. He was kissing ass when the others were writing it off.
I don't know if everyone knows how important mugzy was in people not getting fucked? I know peri doesn't. Mugz and regular came in and mugz put stretch's feet to the fire. Guys don't know and i maybe I'm not supposed to talk about it but I don't see the harm now in bringing this up...CBS, myself, regular, and mugz, met at a different location several times to put our thoughts and heads together to come up with a strategy on how to go at stretch and to get kits or cash for members. If that wasn't possible(i thought the cash was gone) how to expose him to you all and get his face and personal info to those who got burned.
In the end members got their stuff. I have pm's from mic where he';s talking nicely and trying to get in with me just before people started getting kits. It was as if he was trying to recruit me. I disappointed him. Was it stretch i was speaking with? Maybe.
He got to peri. Got him some biz cards and gave him a title. Peri felt as if he had finally arrived. A nut? Certainly. Delusions of grandeur? All day long. Simpleton? Yes. Do I like peri. I do.
People still say that it's the internet and pretend. When there is the amount of money involved that there is in our community this is impossible. Sitting in a prison cell away from your family for 5 yrs helps with the reality part. The internet is such a big part of our daily lives to say that it's pretend and fake is ignorant. There are varying degrees to which it influences folks. At the moment it's the biggest thing in peri's life. All encompassing. A monster. I, for one, am interested in seeing how it all plays out.

I think the most profound thing stated is the internet angle. Peri has no idea how real this is... he won't in county- but when HIS feet get put to the fire he will squeal. Sure as shit anything he knows about anyone will be chronologically laid out for le, and the sad part is it will not be enough. Everyone who is anyone involved with him has insulated themselves because they smelled the bitch on that boy long ago. Probably the only one to get hauled in will be his pro.

Even more pathetic is that with all his talk of buying in and status within the company, international involvement, etc he could have turned a simple 3-5 into a rico 20 - life. Douchebag.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

PC was just caught selling fake Rips on Eroids. No surprise there - I knew they were fake last week.

Haze421

Rips are fakes check out my pics. Batch #s are flagged on the verification page of riptropin.com as fakes.
Source discussions: biologicpharma.com

Haze421

Recieved my Rips from biological and the batch #'s do not verify. They are flagged on riptropin.com on the verification page as being fakes at the top of the page in red. Bio offered to pay for my bloods which I agreed to then told me he would just give me a refund which I agreed to then told me he needed to speak to his partner. He's a liar I'll consider this a loss and toss them who knows what's in them. Just scares me he doesn't want bloods done.
Pictures - Fake Rips from Biologic

 

[Bucky]

I just checked the batch number from the GB. It came back as not legit. Will HK's rips all fail verification or did stretch send out fakes?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I just checked the batch number from the GB. It came back as not legit. Will HK's rips all fail verification or did stretch send out fakes?

Here is what Homer said on OLM about the verification of rips.
OutlawMuscle Forum

please all note that there are some fake riptropin hgh being sold out in the market but some sources including one here on OLM.

the real riptropin hgh security stickers code will only match on Riptropin.com - Potent HGH for an affordable price. if your security stickers code dont match on the website then the riptropin bought is not real but fake.

please all note that the one and only website for riptropin hgh is

Riptropin.com - Potent HGH for an affordable price

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Hmmm... I still have my boxes somewhere, I'll have to check the #'s tomorrow..

I got serum tests done on all the batches, why sell generic GH as another type of generic GH?

Are there any tests posted on eroids for the PC "rips"?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Hmmm... I still have my boxes somewhere, I'll have to check the #'s tomorrow..

I got serum tests done on all the batches, why sell generic GH as another type of generic GH?

Are there any tests posted on eroids for the PC "rips"?

Rips are supposed to be a better quality generic GH, especially if they come from HK, so they are more expensive than whatever-color-top generic. From what I understand, the cheap (legit) generics only result a high-teens serum GH whereas Rips will result in high-20's - low-30's.

And, according to HK and TP, Rips and Hyges are both currently out of production until further notice and existing supplies have dried up. That explains all the interest in PC's Rips on Eroids.

It would be interesting to see more Rips from Stretch's group buys - all of his group buys - verified. I never believed that last order with HK ever took place (the one that went to the wrong receiver and the never unaccounted for 2nd shipment) and I still don't.


BTW, some things never change. LMAO

Biologic1

Tell you what: Lets get them tested. If they are fake, I leave.

If they are legit, you leave

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

In one of the last, long rambling posts I made to peri before he bailed I posted about how I thought bio was using peri to promote and lay the groundwork for a large scam.
If you're gonna steal a whole bunch of money it's not gonna be with vials of gear. The amount of money the average order brings in just won't do it. It's gotta be with gh. The large scale rip offs at promuscle have all centered around gh....bunk gh.

Ben, you were right on the money.

 

[mands]

Nothing suprises me with this idiot at this point and time.

mands

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

My rip boxes from the last buy didn't verify but tested at 26 on serum test..

HK sells them for $135, how much cheaper can they the fake rips be?

 

[dper726]

I can't believe he got away with it this far..... Don't people dig up on people. I mean meso is usually a first link on google search =\

 

[Bucky]

I can't believe he got away with it this far..... Don't people dig up on people. I mean meso is usually a first link on google search =\

It seems that the motto on Eroids is give new sources the BoTD until someone gets burned. Look how they jumped on Fknuts when he pointed out the bullshit. He provided links to Meso and people still doubted him. IT WAS ALL IN PLAIN SIGHT, yet people were dumb enough to throw their money at him. Then guys came out of the woodwork talking shit like "I knew he was full of it". No one gives a shit about each other and wait for the next guy to be the Guinea Pig.

 

[dper726]

It seems that the motto on Eroids is give new sources the BoTD until someone gets burned. Look how they jumped on Fknuts when he pointed out the bullshit. He provided links to Meso and people still doubted him. IT WAS ALL IN PLAIN SIGHT, yet people were dumb enough to throw their money at him. Then guys came out of the woodwork talking shit like "I knew he was full of it". No one gives a shit about each other and wait for the next guy to be the Guinea Pig.

I still can't believe people fell for the bullshit he spilled about him having exclusive 8iu rips and and him requesting different strength levels.....

I read bio's page over on eroids every single day for entertainment cause the guy is so full of it it's truly filled with humor and how everyone supported him and applaud. I don't even know him as good as you veterans here and I smelled his bullshit within the minute of reading his post there.

I am normally a passive person but this guy deserves a real life whooping to the point of being left in a coma for the rest of his life for the shit he talks and what he has done. Although I will tell you all. He is a horrible scammer. He does too poorly covering it up from start up. All he had to do was shut the fuck up and who knows the thousands of dollars he could of even yield more in. He is not even intelligent. What a pathetic human being.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

After getting caught selling fake Rips with boxes that directed users to riptropin.com for verification , PC tried to argue that riptropin.com was a bogus site and the verification system was meaningless. As you might imagine, this strategy didn't go over well.

There was an ensuing shit storm and once PC realized the seriousness of the predicament he was in, he changed his position and came back with this conciliatory post.

Biologic1

Holy shit!! I think the rips are fake. Fuck. I am very, very sorry about this.

I scratched off the silver piece, and sure enough, the number was flagged. That would be no big deal, but the boxes say "Riptropin.com on them. Someone mentioned that the g on refrigerated looked funny. I check. I still have the boxes from Rips I got from HK, and compared them. The g is funky. I am completely blown away. I have been running Bio steroids for a year and a half. They have always been excellent, the best ugl gear I have ever used. I also developed a very close relationship with my partner. I have always trusted him 100% He has never misled me before. Everything has always been spot on.

Until now, he has never done anything wrong. His gear is the best ugl gear I have ever used.

I assumed that anything I got from him was gtg. This kits are real GH, but apparently not genuine rips.

I ran several boxes of Rips I got from HK. They were 10 iu's and very good. I ran several boxes of the undocumented rips I got from my partner, and the results were the same. I am going to be running gh 1.5 iu's a day, 5 days a week for as long as I live. I get good results from that dose. I am already plenty big, just want the fat burning and anti aging effect.

I would get 6 shots out of the HK rips, and 5 from the undocumented 8iu kits from my partner. The results were the same. Nonetheless, they were advertised as rips, and are not.

I have a shitload of regular gear, and little money. I am going to either trade some of the gear back to him, or sell it so that I have the money to pay every one back for the GH.

I obviously am not going to sell any product here anymore, but I am not going anywhere. I will still log on and be available every day. I am a lot of things. Arrogant, selfish, self centered, but I am not a thief or lier.

It is late. I will up to 4am. I will be sleeping late. Don't freak if I do not respond to pmes in the morning. I will be back by early afternoon.

Source discussions: biologicpharma.com

 

[dper726]

Apparently he also wants everyone to first mail back they're rips to get a refund. Then he is beating around the bush telling people to speak to his provider about the "refund".