Mother fucker, they arent being made anymore by Norma Hellas..PERIOD! Only ones on the market are counterfeits, replicas, and fakes. You ever try getting on the norma hellas website? You fucking cant.. Even Naps told you real ones arent available any longer, and havent been in a few years. I can get you any countefeit or working replica amp you want, including Normas for $1-2each.. Your boy granabolic probably bought them off the same counterfeiter as I know.. And yeah, he is my secret counterfeit source. You want him? Ask your boy granabolic, or should I say scamabolic.. Can also get you working replicas of Pink Thais, Anadrolics, Desmas, Iranians, etc.. He has everything, but you have to buy in bulk.