Tren no more (a word of warning)

[Big_paul]

It can definitely do that. It depends on the dose, but it's something that you should be aware of going in, especially with tren, but all aas in my opinion
Going from 50mg ed to 100mg ed would explain things. I wouldn't turn my back on tren just yet. It is a powerful aas, but it is also probably the most effective and versatile.

 

[Black]

As already stated, I feel a lot of people dose their tren too high as well. More isn't always better. With any steroid, grow into your dose.

 

[hotdog23]

Weird I saw this thread, dropped tren a few days ago and I couldn't figure out where all this emotionality/bitchy/insecure/jealous shit was coming from... Musta been the tren cuz I feel normal again. It was my first time running the compound, loved the results, hated the emotional sides, like a dumbass I wanted to push my newfound strength to the limit and tweaked my rotator cuff when I added 25lbs to my max on BB bench. If your just starting out in AAS like myself I wouldn't run it for more than 3-4 weeks. Gives u a good feel and understanding how you'll interact with the drug, you'll get results, and you got the rest of your cycle for it to clear and make recovery easier (I hear). Anyway thanks OP for bringing this up, I thought maybe high estro was causing my bitch problems lol

 

[weighted chinup]

Weird I saw this thread, dropped tren a few days ago and I couldn't figure out where all this emotionality/bitchy/insecure/jealous shit was coming from... Musta been the tren cuz I feel normal again. It was my first time running the compound, loved the results, hated the emotional sides, like a dumbass I wanted to push my newfound strength to the limit and tweaked my rotator cuff when I added 25lbs to my max on BB bench. If your just starting out in AAS like myself I wouldn't run it for more than 3-4 weeks. Gives u a good feel and understanding how you'll interact with the drug, you'll get results, and you got the rest of your cycle for it to clear and make recovery easier (I hear). Anyway thanks OP for bringing this up, I thought maybe high estro was causing my bitch problems lol

This is interesting to hear.. a lot of people seem to hype up tren and other strong androgen's by making it sound like the sides will make you put a dudes head through a wall or commit a felony...in reality it seems what happens to a lot of folks is feelings of anxiety and insecurity...and then there are some guys who don't get messed up at all and its just business as usual lol...

 

[foreveryoung]

for me, the strong androgens amplify being male and part of that is the extreme desire to love and protect a woman and desire her with all my heart and emotions .... that's what amplifies the normal feelings of jealousy and love and emotional attachment and longing and with that can come insecurity and worrying because the feelings of attachment and love are so extremely strong ... it all ties together, the more you love someone the more you would naturally fear losing that extreme love

 

[weighted chinup]

for me, the strong androgens amplify being male and part of that is the extreme desire to love and protect a woman and desire her with all my heart and emotions .... that's what amplifies the normal feelings of jealousy and love and emotional attachment and longing and with that can come insecurity and worrying because the feelings of attachment and love are so extremely strong ... it all ties together, the more you love someone the more you would naturally fear losing that extreme love

I think this explanation makes a lot of sense, and would explain why some guys aren't any more worse off when they are on tren.

Do you experience the same feelings with any drugs other than tren?

 

[hotdog23]

I mean the puttin heads through walls and committing felonies is definetly there... But it's always there lol. By my third weak I felt like a weak lil bitch man (emotionally), checkin my girls phone n shit lol.. Lookin like a sucker

 

[weighted chinup]

I mean the puttin heads through walls and committing felonies is definetly there... But it's always there lol. By my third weak I felt like a weak lil bitch man (emotionally), checkin my girls phone n shit lol.. Lookin like a sucker

Sounds about right ahah. Increased aggression seems to be pretty common across most androgen's, but the emotional insecurities seem to only come from really strong drugs...

 

[foreveryoung]

I think this explanation makes a lot of sense, and would explain why some guys aren't any more worse off when they are on tren.

Do you experience the same feelings with any drugs other than tren?

I've experienced it with testosterone and masteron before yes, but it seems like tren takes it a notch higher

it makes me fall in love way faster with a new girl and get really emotionally in a mess about it, thinking of her all the time like she is the most important thing in the world by far and getting unhappy when away from her where it feels like it hurts my heart aching for her, it makes being in a relationship almost painful in a way the ups and downs of it

 

[foreveryoung]

thinking in the past though, and this is kind of an interesting flip side, when in a long term relationship that had stayed its course and I was totally sick of her after a few years of putting up with crap, going on a strong androgen cycle actually prompted me to dump her and look get someone else, so in that case it didn't revive any love, it actually got me "man enough" to dump the long term one and move on

for myself if I am stuck in a bad long relationship, I highly recommend a strong cycle to help motivate dumping her and moving on, worked well for me

 

[pmac928]

I just started tren a 2 days ago @ 70 mg to start eod plan on bumping to 100mg eod, and I've been hesitant to give it a shot for a while but in looking to really change my body. From what I hear the sides come on quick but gh has been helpin me sleep like a baby and I hope it continues to cause I have a physically demanding job and a new baby so anymore loss of sleep in in trouble. I'll def keep this thread updated...

 

[Sworder]

I highly recommend a strong cycle to help motivate dumping her and moving on, worked well for me

Made me laugh out loud

 

[Black]

Tren (or any anabolic) won't make you something you're not already. If you are a jealous person, being on steroids will enhance that. If you are an asshole, steroids will make you a bigger one.

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[solo47]

This current cycle is my second experience with tren. The first run was 50mg ED for most of the 8 weeks with 500mg/week of test c, current cycle I've been tweaking amounts of tren e and tren a with lower test (300mg/week usually) to try to reduce the insomnia and night sweats I got on the first cycle. I had great bulking results on the first cycle, and great cutting results on the current cycle. However, the mental side effects are just becoming too much to cope with day in and day out.

I'm normally a very emotionally stable person, I don't get jealous or overly angry/aggressive unless overtly provoked. However, on both of these cycles I found myself getting irrationally jealous and insecure of my wife's past. She and I have been together for almost 10 years, since I was 19 and she was 18. We both had previous partners in high school, her a few more than me, and some of them were complete assholes to her but she still dated them. This, for some reason, has completely consumed my mind for days at a time. I didn't even know her in high school or any of the guys she dated, but my mind has just run with it. It's caused bouts of depression, anger, and anxiety that were at times very hard to cope with. If I was a more unstable person and unable to convince myself through the shit swirling in my mind that it was just the tren talking, it could have ended badly. The weird part is the tren also makes me feel extremely emotionally close to my wife, so it's bringing us closer and then mentally fucking with me at the same time. So, despite my love of the physical benefits I've enjoyed from tren, I think it's in my best interest to steer clear of it from now on and stick to less androgenic compounds.

My advice to any of those considering tren for the first time is to be careful and make sure to look at your behavior as objectively as you can if you think you're seeing any changes, maybe get a friend to keep an eye out if there's someone you're close enough with to trust with that task. For some people tren is great an the side effects are minimal, I thought I was one of those people because the physical side effects weren't too bad and it was transforming me dramatically. I can handle the night sweats and insomnia, but this mental shit is just too scary to fuck with.

It's true: big Tren is best for single guys who hang out with other tough guys, so it's cool to be an asshole all the time. For family guys or for someone with a loved one (even a dog), you can find yourself getting impatient, frustrated, or downright angry much more quickly than normally. You can control it, but sometimes the emotions rise so fast and you'll say things you'll regret later (or worse). Some guys don't seem to notice, but it could be they're just naturally assholes or have unusually good self-control.

Solo

 

[solo47]

Tren is a tool!
It can be used or misused, and it is your responsibility to research enough to know if it is going to right for you. Outweigh the pros with the cons.
There is a stigma with Tren and I believe you can use tren as a great addition to your cycle if used in a properly dosed way.

My friend is currently doing his second cycle at 100 mg Test C/week along with 200mg Tren E/week. He is currently out of shape and first cycle was years ago.

I think the cycle is used wisely as with that testosterone dose you don't need to worry much about aromatase and the "smaller" dose of Trenbolone will provide the necessary anabolic power for his cycle to be successful.

Most the times I think the dose of Trenbolone is misused and misunderstood. The same androgenic effects can be established with other compounds at other doses. But I will not say all drugs are the same, certain activate androgen receptors in the CNS more than others leading to more androgenic expressions. Keep in mind Testosterone will convert to DHT and also act on the CNS.

I think these types of threads are good as it serves as a personal testimony, take it as you wish.

 

[solo47]

Tren is a tool!
It can be used or misused, and it is your responsibility to research enough to know if it is going to right for you. Outweigh the pros with the cons.
There is a stigma with Tren and I believe you can use tren as a great addition to your cycle if used in a properly dosed way.

My friend is currently doing his second cycle at 100 mg Test C/week along with 200mg Tren E/week. He is currently out of shape and first cycle was years ago.

I think the cycle is used wisely as with that testosterone dose you don't need to worry much about aromatase and the "smaller" dose of Trenbolone will provide the necessary anabolic power for his cycle to be successful.

Most the times I think the dose of Trenbolone is misused and misunderstood. The same androgenic effects can be established with other compounds at other doses. But I will not say all drugs are the same, certain activate androgen receptors in the CNS more than others leading to more androgenic expressions. Keep in mind Testosterone will convert to DHT and also act on the CNS.

I think these types of threads are good as it serves as a personal testimony, take it as you wish.

Maybe I'm from another era, but your friend is on a pretty mild cycle. Then again, with Tren you just don't know. I'm not growing with my current Test-EQ-Mast cycle (hard & vascular, yes) like usual, mainly cause I'm old but also because I simply can't eat as much. I'm tempted to run Tren again, because, unless I'm mistaken, Tren will cause growth even with limited amounts of food. This right?

Wise Old Man Solo

 

[BigShadow]

Don't smoke weed

Huh? So inhaling a natural plant is bad but pinning 700mg of tren a week is ok? Dont get me wrong, I enjoy both.

 

[Sworder]

Maybe I'm from another era, but your friend is on a pretty mild cycle. Then again, with Tren you just don't know. I'm not growing with my current Test-EQ-Mast cycle (hard & vascular, yes) like usual, mainly cause I'm old but also because I simply can't eat as much. I'm tempted to run Tren again, because, unless I'm mistaken, Tren will cause growth even with limited amounts of food. This right?

Wise Old Man Solo

Yeah, it's a mild cycle. He has some winstrol too though.

Tren will cause muscle growth even though food intake is limited. That's why tren is always going to be king. You can increase muscle and lose some fat while on a tren cycle. Doses I like is 400 mg minimum then it gets nice at 600mg/week. More than that however and the sides become unbearable.

I really like tren though, some people can't do 600mg/week or it's not worth it for them. To each his own, start low and increase until you hit the sweet spot.

 

[Sworder]

Huh? So inhaling a natural plant is bad but pinning 700mg of tren a week is ok? Dont get me wrong, I enjoy both.

700mg of tren is not ok, 800mg is

 

[pmac928]

Almost a week of tren and no crazy side effects so far. Haven't had to deal with any tren cough. Only thing is I seem to be losing weight since I've started tren. Not happy about it either. It's hard to take in lots of calories cause of te labor intensive work I do for a living. Would tren e be a better choice?