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I'm with you on that point, Colt. GR should be the ones doing this, If there are guys that want to run the normas, give them a cycle's worth in exchange for bloods. Not to convince Meso, but just to be aware of what they are selling.

There is a guy that did bloods and posted them on ASF 100% unsolicited.
 
There is a guy that did bloods and posted them on ASF 100% unsolicited.

That guys bloodwork is a step in the right direction, but one guy with a short history on the forum is less than convincing to the masses.
Thats 1 blood test "for"
and 2 labmax and a mass spec "against"
 
That guys bloodwork is a step in the right direction, but one guy with a short history on the forum is less than convincing to the masses.
Thats 1 blood test "for"
and 2 labmax and a mass spec "against"

I'll give you that. So what's the magic number then? How many people with blood work?
 
Well, you just started your cycle, why not make it a test only cycle and see for yourself how good the normas are. Your bloods won't convince anyone on meso, but you'll know for yourself w/o any doubt.
The problem with the bloods on ASF is that they were posted by a new arrival, and after the whole Normas debacle.
A board member with some history would be far more convincing. I'm out..... People already think I'm a shill for GR and Blacklabel, lol.
 
Well, you just started your cycle, why not make it a test only cycle and see for yourself how good the normas are. Your bloods won't convince anyone on meso, but you'll know for yourself w/o any doubt.
The problem with the bloods on ASF is that they were posted by a new arrival, and after the whole Normas debacle.
A board member with some history would be far more convincing. I'm out..... People already think I'm a shill for GR and Blacklabel, lol.

Lol Well thanks for your input man. I appreciate you being level headed at the cost of being labeled a "shill." You're a stand up guy. Thanks.
 
Well, you just started your cycle, why not make it a test only cycle and see for yourself how good the normas are. Your bloods won't convince anyone on meso, but you'll know for yourself w/o any doubt.
The problem with the bloods on ASF is that they were posted by a new arrival, and after the whole Normas debacle.
A board member with some history would be far more convincing. I'm out..... People already think I'm a shill for GR and Blacklabel, lol.

For the record I don't think your a shill Burr.
 
I thought the consensus was that there are no good amps bc they aren't being made anymore? If that's the case, how could we send good ones?
I've not once stated that Norma isn't selling those amps or that GR didn't purchase the amps from them. I believe some of the amps I received were questionable and as you know GR is replacing my product with another.
 
I've not once stated that Norma isn't selling those amps or that GR didn't purchase the amps from them. I believe some of the amps I received were questionable and as you know GR is replacing my product with another.


That's fair. It wasn't you saying that.
 
Well, you just started your cycle, why not make it a test only cycle and see for yourself how good the normas are. Your bloods won't convince anyone on meso, but you'll know for yourself w/o any doubt.
The problem with the bloods on ASF is that they were posted by a new arrival, and after the whole Normas debacle.
A board member with some history would be far more convincing. I'm out..... People already think I'm a shill for GR and Blacklabel, lol.
Yes of course, that is the answer!! Let's all trust Majere to run only the weak Norma's and trust HIS lab results. Haha what a joke. Majere has a vested interest in seeing Scamabolics do well so I totally would trust his labs. LOL. And you're right,it wouldn't convince anyone here at Meso because we are not that stupid.
 
Yes of course, that is the answer!! Let's all trust Majere to run only the weak Norma's and trust HIS lab results. Haha what a joke. Majere has a vested interest in seeing Scamabolics do well so I totally would trust his labs. LOL. And you're right,it wouldn't convince anyone here at Meso because we are not that stupid.
You think it's a bad idea for Majere to know the quality of the gear he reps for?
I wasn't asking anyone to trust Majere.... You've already made up your mind on that,
 
You think it's a bad idea for Majere to know the quality of the gear he reps for?
I wasn't asking anyone to trust Majere.... You've already made up your mind on that,
No I do think it is always wise to run labwork when on cycle, and I think Majere should do so for his own health. But if he we're to ever post the results on any forum, then those labs should not be viewed as being credible to anyone but him because of his connection with Granabolics. Unless of course the results showed what we already know, which is that the Norma's are weak as shit. But somehow I'm sure the results would be stellar. LOL. I would trust Mythotik's mass spec anytime before I would trust Majere's labwork.
 
CBS, the mass specs were done by Angus, on eroids. I believe his results are accurate, give or take a bit. He has been under a lot of scrutiny lately, and is currently involved in a little lab contest to show his results are valid. I believe one src is mailing stuff to angus, more of the same to ALin, and a third batch of the same unlabeled product to another independant lab.
The board is pretty split on their faith in Angus.

Now that Alin is involved in this whole process of verfiying accuracy of ms i can sleep better at nite :eek:
 
Alin is the one that started disputing the claims. He has a guy doing his amss specs that says that the Angus testing is BS. This started when Angus found loads of impurities in the PVC stealth sachets.
But it did bring up a valid point, Angus has a lot of power with these tests, and needs to have some checks and balances.
Alin won't know what sample he's getting to test, none of them will.
How many of you here know Angus? But his test results still have a huge influence on all of us here. What if he is just plain wrong some of the time, or influenced by a SRC that he works with.
We need to validate his testing.
 
I would cordially invite Alin to go fuck himself. This is coming from a former customer. Years ago i would have given him a thumbs up, but 2 bad episodes later i have to give him the double birds.
 
Alin is the one that started disputing the claims. He has a guy doing his amss specs that says that the Angus testing is BS. This started when Angus found loads of impurities in the PVC stealth sachets.
But it did bring up a valid point, Angus has a lot of power with these tests, and needs to have some checks and balances.
Alin won't know what sample he's getting to test, none of them will.
How many of you here know Angus? But his test results still have a huge influence on all of us here. What if he is just plain wrong some of the time, or influenced by a SRC that he works with.
We need to validate his testing.
Of course Alin is disputing a known selective scammer. Sorry Burr judgement is still out on Angus and off he is tied into a source somewhere also. This whole testing trial thing seems fishy from the get go a whole lot of characters involved with plenty of ????? Around their names. Do you know Angus? Beside what you have been told. You seem plenty smart enough Burr.
 
Of course Alin is disputing a known selective scammer. Sorry Burr judgement is still out on Angus and off he is tied into a source somewhere also. This whole testing trial thing seems fishy from the get go a whole lot of characters involved with plenty of ????? Around their names. Do you know Angus? Beside what you have been told. You seem plenty smart enough Burr.
I agree, judgement is still out on angus. He seems like a good guy, but it's the internet.... you never know.
I've run some gear he tested, but bought it before I knew the test results. I'm gonna run mostly simple test cycles for the near future, I can lab my own gear with a blood tests.
AS it's becoming clear, the underground world of AAS needs more than one place to test gear.

I think the results from the mass spec 3 way test should be interesting.It will at least let us see how different labs read the same product. Too bad we don't have 3 labs to pick from all the time.
 
Sounds not really like scamming to me. Not offending you colt.

Haven't said that either. None taken.

And the process wasn't as easy as "Hey this stuff doesn't look right on labmax. Wait not on MS either." Ok, replacements sent.

It was more along the lines of broken promises, followed by threats.
 
I have to give Majere credit though. He did facilitate having replacement product sent out.(Well shipped I believe, not received yet)
 
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