glad u guys have fufilled lives and dont sit on some gay weightlifting site and compensate for your small dicks by bugging new people... cause that would be an epic fail of a life. anyway i dont lift weights and these were my best freinds and he used them for years and he recently passed away and i had to clean out his room and all these things were in there and was just trying to find out some info on them and if someone could use them i was gonna give em to them, thanks alot for the help and hopefully your lives will get better once u build some bigger muscles... lmao