Generic causing red lumps at injection site?

I will take that as a no. My interest is in testing gear. Purity, potency, quality.

I have many samples I want to test. I am always looking for the best available testing methodology.

The back and forth between us is inconsequential. None of it maters, what does matter is the quality of the gear.

You go on and on about the virtue of HPCL and claim access to the methodology. Yet every time someone asks for a test, you refuse. What good does that do anyone?

By refusing to test, you are no more than words. If you tested my samples, yes I would pay a fee, but that is not really what I call business.

You champion HPCL testing, you claim to be able to do it, yet in just the last few posts you have refused to test gear from 2 people.
 
I don't think that is true 928. Now what they (your sources) may tell you is entirely different.

The WHO MUST approve all GH patents and bc of patent infringements NO generic GH has or will be approved in the near further. Also understand IF China knowingly allows the production of generic GH, they are in violation of the WTO agreement on GH and will lose patent licensure and thats BILLIONS OF DOLLARS!

So I can't about promise you your being fed a line of crap by GH resellers!
 
Also taitropin is made by a pharma company out of china.
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Nope I checked to make sure "Taittropin" is NOT a legit, registered or patented chinese GH product, and therefore meets the classic definition of Generic GH!

If you do locate the Taitropin website you will soon discover, they too will have no PHYSICAL ADDRESS and no PHONE NUMBER.

Fact is "contact" can only be made by email, WTF. Now that is not
standard practice for any pharm company. Here is another "site" that sells three "Chinese" brands familiar to us all: Kigs, Rips, and Hyges!

Unfortunately these fellas leave no contact info either exclusive of an emai, yet they "employ over 40,000 people, LOL!

Finally look at what else is available WITHOUT a RX. Goodness have we hit the AAS jackpot? Unlikely bc any site that sells all PEDS known to mankind will most assuredly screw you AND ME :)
 

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That website is for sino. @Dr JIM do ou know who a few real Chinese gh manufacturers are as your in the business. However we are not in china and really have no idea how it works over there. Are these companies legally allowed to sell there products the way they do? Don't forget this is a communist country.
 
You champion HPCL testing, you claim to be able to do it, yet in just the last few posts you have refused to test gear from 2 people.

Do you know this to be true PC or are you spewing more BULLSHIT, because if you know this statement to be true POST THE EVIDENCE!
 
That website is for sino. @Dr JIM do ou know who a few real Chinese gh manufacturers are as your in the business. However we are not in china and really have no idea how it works over there. Are these companies legally allowed to sell there products the way they do? Don't forget this is a communist country.

Hey of course I know that but the SAME features apply to Tritropin or whatever it's called.
Go to their website mate and post back when you have located their factory site, pictures, phone number or address. Look I've been slamming generic "GH producers" for years because of these very issues.
 
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As of one year ago there were 4-5 REGISTERED Chinese GH manufacturers. So why of course someone is acquiring GH from that country, in fact DEA evidence reports that China exports around 80% of illicit GH, and of that 80% approximately one half is generic.

Unfortunately the DEA has not conducted purity studies on the generics but rest assured their purity pales in comparison to pharm grade. WHY? Well you said it, China is a communist country and who is ensuring these "generics" reach the same Pharm grade standards? NO ONE, so this stuff is very hit and miss when it comes to quality and or purity, believe otherwise at your own peril, IMO

regs
im
 
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You champion HPCL testing said:
Do you know this statement to be true PB or are you spewing more BULLSHIT, because once again if you know this to be true POST THE EVIDENCE
 
Didn't your post read TWO, LMAO!

(Golly PC did you ever think someone with 1-2 posts on Meso, like Senorman, would be second fiddle to those whom have been around a while, lol)

But once again you know NOTHING of which you speak.
 
Didn't your post read TWO, LMAO!

Yes: Sonorman and myself, two. We both want labs using HPCL. I take math is not your strong point. Of course the English language is not either.

Do Caribbean Medical schools require the MCAT? Apparently not.

Again, put up or shut up: Can you get HPCL's run? Two asked, one is too new, and the other "you won't do business with." You are 0 and 2.

It is pretty clear you cannot run the labs, and with that I am moving on.

I know that you would like to run my stuff and then come back and announce it is bunk.

If you really could run the test, you would. But you can't.
 
Yes: Sonorman and myself, two. We both want labs using HPCL. I take math is not your strong point. Of course the English language is not either.

Do Caribbean Medical schools require the MCAT? Apparently not.

Again, put up or shut up: Can you get HPCL's run? Two asked, one is too new, and the other "you won't do business with." You are 0 and 2.

It is pretty clear you cannot run the labs, and with that I am moving on.

I know that you would like to run my stuff and then come back and announce it is bunk.

If you really could run the test, you would. But you can't.


Reading your post reminds me of how much I've missed your presence on Meso. Please tell me you'll be sticking around, PC. :eek:
 
Yes: Sonorman and myself, two. We both want labs using HPCL. I take math is not your strong point. Of course the English language is not either.

Do Caribbean Medical schools require the MCAT? Apparently not.

Again, put up or shut up: Can you get HPCL's run? Two asked, one is too new, and the other "you won't do business with." You are 0 and 2.

It is pretty clear you cannot run the labs, and with that I am moving on.

I know that you would like to run my stuff and then come back and announce it is bunk.

If you really could run the test, you would. But you can't.

1) PC what are U nuts, yep. Based on your comments and demeanor on this thread alone I would have to be F,,ing CRAZY to enter into ANY form of business agreement with you!

2) Because I have more than enough mates whom NEED testing performed, "sources" will be the last analyses that will be conducted

3) Additionally to better ensure a higher security screening level, ONLY Meso members with at least TWO HUNDRED LIKES will have testing performed.

4) These "rules" are subject to change wo notice!

5) these rules are subject to change wo notice

Finally it should follow I am NOT interested in facilitating the initial operations of some AAS mill, the objective to make money thru PED testing.

So your damn right I will readily decline source testing as a means of substituting quality for quantity, because we should all know by now sources ONLY RARELY analyzes the same product that the consumer receives in the mailbox.

Yep I want what almost all members want, reliable testing AND posting of ANALYSES they themselves have received.

Consequently the posting of source data would ONLY skew the results in favor of sources, and that's the last thing I'm willing to do.

The fact is, I'll be lucky if I break even, but if that's the cost of producing credible results that are in compliance with existing registered lab standards, I'll be delighted.

Because we ALL must be willing to "give a little" to those rookies, noobs, or neophytes, whom will follow our lead as Meso Vets eventually, IMO

Jim
 
@Dr JIM what test will you be performing?

Whatever test is required to prove or disprove the sample you submit is GH.

Thereafter an HPLC WILL BE CONDUCTED to determine it's purity. However HPLC analysis would ONLY be necessary if the initial analysis determined GH was indeed present!

You with me fella?
 
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1) PC what are U nuts, yep. Based on your comments and demeanor on this thread alone I would have to be F,,ing CRAZY to enter into ANY form of business agreement with you!

2) Because I have more than enough mates whom NEED testing performed, "sources" will be the last analyses that will be conducted

3) Additionally to better ensure a higher security screening level, ONLY Meso members with at least TWO HUNDRED LIKES will have testing performed.

4) These "rules" are subject to change wo notice!

5) these rules are subject to change wo notice

Finally it should follow I am NOT interested in facilitating the initial operations of some AAS mill, the objective to make money thru PED testing.

So your damn right I will readily decline source testing as a means of substituting quality for quantity, because we should all know by now sources ONLY RARELY analyzes the same product that the consumer receives in the mailbox.

Yep I want what almost all members want, reliable testing AND posting of ANALYSES they themselves have received.

Consequently the posting of source data would ONLY skew the results in favor of sources, and that's the last thing I'm willing to do.

The fact is, I'll be lucky if I break even, but if that's the cost of producing credible results that are in compliance with existing registered lab standards, I'll be delighted.

Because we ALL must be willing to "give a little" to those rookies, noobs, or neophytes, whom will follow our lead as Meso Vets eventually, IMO

Jim


THE NUMBER OF "LIKES" is ONE HUNDRED RATHER THAN TWO HUNDRED!!!

Moreover individual exceptions for mates like BB, CBS and MW will be considered :)

Regs
Jim
 
Peri....do u want me to pull my fuking box out and stand taller than my 6'2" to spit the truth. Stand down, partner.
 
Excuse me....Hello, Doc. I've missed you. For those that are a bit confused,,,,the Doc is my Motherfucking Dog....less the foul language.
 
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