Generic causing red lumps at injection site?

Reading your post reminds me of how much I've missed your presence on Meso. Please tell me you'll be sticking around, PC. :eek:


I have missed you too, Sugar Tits. I actually came on to research tb500. I saw the post and explained what the problem probably was. I have seen hundreds of kits from China, and it is very, very common for there to be some burn, sting.

I was worried about what was causing it, my wife got the sting. Others have gotten it. No one got it once they switched to IM.

OP, have you tried IM?

Shit Ben, glad you are OK. I was worried you might have gotten locked up. We have had our differences, but I like you and wish you the best.
 
I have missed you too, Sugar Tits. I actually came on to research tb500. I saw the post and explained what the problem probably was. I have seen hundreds of kits from China, and it is very, very common for there to be some burn, sting.

I was worried about what was causing it, my wife got the sting. Others have gotten it. No one got it once they switched to IM.

OP, have you tried IM?

Shit Ben, glad you are OK. I was worried you might have gotten locked up. We have had our differences, but I like you and wish you the best.


Well of course they "don't get it" since the swelling and redness are disguised bc it's IM and whatever sting people did develop is short lived bc of improved IM blood flow.

IM sure that's highly recommended therapy for allergic reactions.
 
That website is for sino. @Dr JIM do ou know who a few real Chinese gh manufacturers are as your in the business. However we are not in china and really have no idea how it works over there. Are these companies legally allowed to sell there products the way they do? Don't forget this is a communist country.

No, it is not legal.

None of the protagonists on this thread know anything about how the Chinese GH market works. There is a guy in this thread who can get you nords if you have the money, and he is willing. Don't ask me who he is, however.

Here is how the Chinese market works. I hate generalizing about people, countries, ethnicity but be very clear, On the surface, China is a communist country. But the truth is, they love to make money and have no compunction in separating Americans or anyone else from their money.

And they are smart, they have a higher IQ than most Caucasians. There are many, many places producing bunk GH, for sure. There are 4 facilities in China that make real GH.

On our end we have gotten smarter. Not me, but a guy I know buys thousands of kits from China. Whenever a new batch comes in, he immediately has blood serums run. I know they are not ideal, but they are the only option. The guy I know is smart, and he has arranged for payment of the Chinese GH AFTER B serums come in. An end user like me runs IGF-1 labs. In the real world, IGF-1 labs and mass specs are what matter. Maybe HPCL will become the standard, but not yet. I wanted to send some Chinese GH to Jim for HPCL, but he does not really care about actually testing or pursuing empirical data.

Back to China. They would have absolutely no problem selling fake GH. I don't have the time/space to explain why here. 12 years ago, when I was ABD I published a piece on Taiwanese unification that unpacked this fact. Trust me on this one.

So, the question is: Why would the Chinese not just produce bunk GH?

The answer is, they know we are now testing. That is why the guy I know does not pay until AFTER.

Were I in your case, I would demand some lab work. I have B serums, Mass specs, and igf-1 on the stuff I use. 99% of the GH I see sold on the internet has no labs.

You can be sure I will be looking into the HPCL test, but know one uses it right now.

And as I said before, if you get GH shipped in the heat, it will be damaged.
 
No, it is not legal.

None of the protagonists on this thread know anything about how the Chinese GH market works. There is a guy in this thread who can get you nords if you have the money, and he is willing. Don't ask me who he is, however.


Come on now, PC. You just got back to Meso - don't make me drive you off already.

You're right about one thing though: None of the protagonists on this thread know anything about how the Chinese GH market works. But the antagonists sure do.
 
Ok so what exactly are you saying? All I heard was they are making real gh cause we are testing and only 4 facilities manufacture "real" gh. What else? You know more ten I do
So let's hear it. I'm all about helping this community and your arrogance doesn't seem to give a fuck. I appriciate your input but want more answers. Who's making the taitropin, Hyges, rips? Tais and rips are
In production so are these just coming from an underground arena. People who had the 4 mill to start up production? Or is the Chinese gov really in on it?
 
Ok so what exactly are you saying? All I heard was they are making real gh cause we are testing and only 4 facilities manufacture "real" gh. What else? You know more ten I do
So let's hear it. I'm all about helping this community and your arrogance doesn't seem to give a fuck. I appriciate your input but want more answers. Who's making the taitropin, Hyges, rips? Tais and rips are
In production so are these just coming from an underground arena. People who had the 4 mill to start up production? Or is the Chinese gov really in on it?

Prob a little of all the above
 
Oh shit yea, ya wanna KNOW about the Chinese ask PC he was born there, the resemblance is striking, lol!
I for sure can see Peri grabbing an asian bride. He doesn't have to pay. If u know the get down HE can get paid to marry a Chinese National...though i would recommend a Thai or Cambodian girl. They front 10 or 15k and then give up another 10k after the ceremony.
 
Growth hormone is cultured in a lab attached to e.coli. I bet the cheaper stuff has more of the original host still attached to it.
 
Growth hormone is cultured in a lab attached to e.coli. I bet the cheaper stuff has more of the original host still attached to it.
It's done different ways EMD Serono says they do the shit right. I'm looking at the insert.
 
Ok so what exactly are you saying? All I heard was they are making real gh cause we are testing and only 4 facilities manufacture "real" gh. What else? You know more ten I do
So let's hear it. I'm all about helping this community and your arrogance doesn't seem to give a fuck. I appriciate your input but want more answers. Who's making the taitropin, Hyges, rips? Tais and rips are
In production so are these just coming from an underground arena. People who had the 4 mill to start up production? Or is the Chinese gov really in on it?


I am doing my best to help you. To be honest, it is going to be difficult. People love to say "don't waste your time on Chinese generics, they are all bunk....just run pharm." Great advice, if you can afford to spend $600 plus a month. There is a guy posting on this thread who has pharm for a decent price. Stay involved, and he might help you.

However, and this is very important, be leery of scamers. You may get pms from guys claiming to be the person I am talking about. PM me and I will verify.

Look for lab work. Unfortunately, there is not much testing done. NAPS has blood serum, but no igf-1 and or mass specs. And the gear is not domestic, it will be coming from overseas. I have all 3 tests on my GH, but I do not sell anymore. People from this forum have threatened to rat me out to LE, have called and harassed bodybuilders I work with, etc. If I sold to you, they would turn both of us in. Be sure of that. I am just about to dump 6 figures into my bank account, so making $100 from a GH sale makes no sense.

You may also want to look for a guy named Homer Khan.

In short, you have to do a lot of gruntwork if you want to find good Chinese GH.
 
I for sure can see Peri grabbing an asian bride. He doesn't have to pay. If u know the get down HE can get paid to marry a Chinese National...though i would recommend a Thai or Cambodian girl. They front 10 or 15k and then give up another 10k after the ceremony.

I have had about 15 Asian GF's, and my wife is 3/4 asian.

Glad you are not in trouble, Ben.
 
Oh shit yea, ya wanna KNOW about the Chinese ask PC he was born there, the resemblance is striking, lol!

I was dating a gal from Beijing. I asked "sweetie, do you know that your country does (Death Sentence) 4 thousand people a year?"

She said "yes, we have too many people, they need to kill more."
 
I do not sell anymore. People from this forum have threatened to rat me out to LE, have called and harassed bodybuilders I work with, etc. If I sold to you, they would turn both of us in. Be sure of that. I am just about to dump 6 figures into my bank account, so making $100 from a GH sale makes no sense.

I have had about 15 Asian GF's, and my wife is 3/4 asian.

I was dating a gal from Beijing. I asked "sweetie, do you know that your country does (Death Sentence) 4 thousand people a year?"

She said "yes, we have too many people, they need to kill more."


That's what I'm talking about!!! That's what Meso's been missing!!! There is NO ONE else that can offer the astute insight nor the sheer number of incredible personal anecdotes that you do, PC. Welcome back to Meso, PC!
 
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