The New Guy

[Big Mike]

Hello,

First of all big thanks jayb for the info and the welcome.

I am a new member and wanted to introduce myself, currently 35yrs, 6'3, 285, 16% BF. I cycled gear back in my early twenties when I was powerlifting and playing ball. Before I ever took my first cycle I researched the steroid info banks and fell in love with it. Even when I was done cycling I continued to try and stay up to date with new info/products etc.. It was a good thing because it allowed me to help out other buds who were just getting started. However, around 2005 when the MX gear market was hit, my pursuit of gear info/knowledge slowly came to a halt. Now 14 years later, I have rekindled the urge to get back on the gear knowledge quest. I kind of remember the forum etiquette and have researched/read a ton of forums on a few different sites recently and decided to choose this one to sign up. Enough small talk, here I am now after 3 knee surgeries and I am finally felling good (physically). My lifts are going well for an older man (lol) and I plan to cycle soon. I am waiting to plateau on my lifts and bring the BF% down before I begin. I am also still formulating my cycle and wanted some honest knowledgeable feedback.

Second, needed some reliable gear/rep.

If I have violated any rules in which I tried not too, I apologize in advance. My rough draft cycle is below:

10 Weeks/Weekly injections
Test E 500mg
Deca 500mg
OTC lipid assist pill 3xdaily

Week 10
1000 iu HCG every other day for 20 days
clomid 50mg 2xdaily for 25 days
nolva 20g 2xday for 30 days


Best Regards,

Big Mike

 

[Boilermech]

Welcome to Meso brother.
Personally I have found to have less sides from Deca when I have my Test a little higher than the Deca.
Your rough draft shows your going to be starting your pct on week 10. I would start the HCG then but start the Clomid and Nolvadex 3 weeks after last pin and stop the HCG before you start your pct. Also do you have an AI you will be taking or at least on hand?

 

[Big Mike]

Thanks for the welcome! So run the HCG with the test/deca all 10 weeks? Also what is a good test to deca ratio that u recommend?

On the AI, yes I do want some around but since its been so long and having moved away from my home town, its hard to find all the right medicine. But Im ok for now, since I have about 3-4 months before I start.

Thanks Again,

Big Mike

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Welcome Big Mike

 

[Big Mike]

Thanks brotha!

 

[Big_paul]

I like the cycle Mike. Welcome to meso.

 

[Big Mike]

Thank you!

 

[romaleos]

Welcome to the show!

Ahh mex gear, I miss Ttokkyo.

 

[Big Mike]

Lol! Yeah those were good times. Quality Vet was my fav!

Thanks for the welcoming!

Big Mike

 

[LSUTigers71]

Welcome to Meso.

 

[Big Mike]

Thank you.

 

[greenddog1]

Welcome to Meso!

 

[Big Mike]

Thank you!

 

[Boilermech]

Thanks for the welcome! So run the HCG with the test/deca all 10 weeks? Also what is a good test to deca ratio that u recommend?

On the AI, yes I do want some around but since its been so long and having moved away from my home town, its hard to find all the right medicine. But Im ok for now, since I have about 3-4 months before I start.

Thanks Again,

Big Mike

Ok I'll just lay out my suggestion. You can do it how ever you want.

1-10 Deca 400mg/wk (2x wk inject)
1-12 Test E 500mg/wk (2x wk inject)
1-14 Adex .25mg/EOD (adjust as needed)
11-14 HCG 500iu (2x wk inject)
15-18 Clomid 100/100/50/50
15-18 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I'm old school and never use HCG. I have studied it out the ass and talked with people on here and friends of mine that use it. Some of them use HCG throughout their cycle and some just use it in between the cycle and PCT. I have read way to many contradicting articles on this subject that I gave up. Some say that it should be used the last 4weeks of the cycle upto pct and others say during the whole cycle. Another note is hcg tells your body that it doesn't need to release any LH therefore long use could cause your natural production of LH to cease. The safest way I have seen it used with the least amount of side effects in my opinion is the way I have posted above. I just incorporate test prop towards the end of my cycle and run it up to PCT. And I always like to jump start with a little dbol.
The reason for injecting Test 2x a week is to keep your levels steadier. I have read there's no reason to inject Deca 2x a week but I always mix my Test and Deca into one shot. I would first pull in 1cc of Deca then pull 1cc Test into the same syringe. Then change the needle and pin it. I have done just 1 pin a week in the past but I seamed to retain more water that way (might just be in my head).
This is all from my personal experience except for the HCG so take it in and make your own judgment brother. Research some other cycles also. Everyone is different and everyone reacts differently to AAS.
And posting you need a source get ready for some PM's just don't trust anyone that PMs you a source. Good luck to you brother.

Boilermech

 

[Big Mike]

Thanks so much brother! I really appreciate all the insight! I love the two shot per week mix idea and I am with u on the great HCG debate, its endless. So do u think I could get away with running the cycle as is and leave the HCG out?

Big Mike

 

[Boilermech]

Everyone's body is different. I cannot tell you that you'll be okay and that your system will come back to its peak after your cycle with just the PCT recommended. But I have ran several cycles in the past and my recent bloodwork shows that everything is still functioning properly. And I have never used HCG. Although I have been contemplating the use of HCG. The whole keeping it in the refrigerator with my two older boys (14 & 17) has me a little concerned. Don't want them knowing what I'm doing. And my Wife has threatened me about letting them know also. So I believe I'm just going to have to keep the Clomid and Nolvadex until I see any issues arise in the future.
From my personal experience I would say you should be fine just make sure to get bloodwork done before you start, mid cycle, and after you finish pct.

Wish you the best brother,
Boilermech

 

[Big Mike]

I hear you, I tell peeps the same thing about supplements, every one body is different. Thanks for all the input though, its very appreciated!

Big Mike