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Walker

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Just want a feel for what motivates you guys to get jacked...more curiousity than anything else...what drives you?

For myself Ive always wanted to keep a lean look but with a muscular structure but not overly jacked.. Ive always trained hard

Something Ive also noticed, Ive read some guys post that their are benching 300+ pounds and all that jazz but can only do 8-10 pull ups? whats up with that? Just curious because in my mind id want to have a complete round package, not just have the ability to bench like a beast...

And reading that before kinda baffles me as a strong back always helps with your bench...but having a weak back and being able to bench 300+ makes no sense to me....

By no means do I mean any disrespect btw...
 
Walker said:
Something Ive also noticed, Ive read some guys post that their are benching 300+ pounds and all that jazz but can only do 8-10 pull ups? whats up with that? Just curious because in my mind id want to have a complete round package, not just have the ability to bench like a beast...

And reading that before kinda baffles me as a strong back always helps with your bench...but having a weak back and being able to bench 300+ makes no sense to me....

By no means do I mean any disrespect btw...
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You raise some interesting points here, definitely a good discussion to be had here.

In regards to your example of guys being able to do 300lb bench for reps but can only do 8-10 reps of pulls body-weight, there are a few things you have to keep in mind here. Most people don't treat lifts like pull ups or chin ups as the main lifts in their routine, the majority of a lot of peoples back development comes from other lifts. Based on what I've seen in various routines, a lot of times pull ups are just used for extra variety in exercise selection in peoples training, with very little emphasis put on getting stronger at them.

If guys who can only do 8-10 reps of pull ups body-weight treated the pull up the same way they treat their bench, squat, or other major lifts when it comes to getting stronger and placing a strong emphasis on progressive overload, then they probably could easily pull some impressive weights.

It gets harder too for guys who are pushing the limit in size...10 well performed reps of BW pull ups with good range for someone who is 240-260 is decently strong in my opinion.

But it doesn't necessarily mean that someone has a weak back, they might be much stronger in other back lifts like horizontal rows or even other vertical pulls. Your strength in any given lift is a skill. If you want to get better at flat bench, you simply flat bench more, you wouldn't do dips for example expecting your flat bench to dramatically improve and get stronger faster. Same applies for pull ups, if your back training focuses on doings lifts other than pull ups, you can't reasonably expect your pull up to be as strong as it could be if you focused on getting stronger in it. But it doesn't necessarily mean they have a weak back.
 
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As soon as some little guy says "no disrespect" it's time to lace up my boots...size 14. Feeling good, are we? You out here wanting to measure dicks or sniff the pecking order out and see where you may fit in?
You stumpy little guys look like you may have been about a months worth of in utero second hand smoke away from full on T Rex birth defect status.That shit would put a whole different vibe on going to the tailors. Know what I mean?
 
Ok pal...relax put down the pin and breath...your getting way more worked up than you need to...
 
ruckin said:
My paused bench is exactly 300, i can do about 9 bw chin ups and i weigh 250. I also deadlift 500. Proportionally speaking, that is not a weak back IMO.
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what's your full stats Ruckin? ht/wt/age/bf% and what do you squat? You're planning a first cycle correct, those numbers are a pretty good place to start.
 
TANGO.ECHO.KILO said:
what's your full stats Ruckin? ht/wt/age/bf% and what do you squat? You're planning a first cycle correct, those numbers are a pretty good place to start.
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yup that's correct. Stats are currently:

Age 21 (i know i know, save your time flaming me for this. I understand the risk i'll be taking. I won't be starting til at least after i'm 22 though)
Height is 6'2
Weight ~250, slightly visible abs if i'm in good lighting
Paused bench: 300 (gonna be going for a new pr on this later today actually, hoping for 295x2)
Squat (olympic style, atg) was at 375x3 before i hurt my lower back 3 months ago, started squating again a week ago and i'm back up to 320 for 3 sets of 5. Hopefully i'll hit 400 in the next few weeks.
Deadlift was about 500 before injury, probably won't take too long to get back up to that either.
 
Disparity in back strength could be attributed to muscular endurance and neuromuscular adaptations. It could be as simple as weighted chinup stated that the movement is treated as an accessory lift vice a main lift. Basically if you don't use it you lose it. The human organism is pretty amazing in the way it adapts to stresses placed upon it.
 
Well I was that guy... I could bench 405 but could not get many pull ups at all. Why??? Cuz I didnt care about doing pull ups. Deadlifts were my back training priority. That was the case until I decided to enlist and well then pull ups became my staple.

But here is the real question:
Whats more impressive. .. someone who benches 5 plates on each side or someone who does 100 pull ups, hell even 100 one armed pull ups.
 
Walker said:
Just want a feel for what motivates you guys to get jacked...more curiousity than anything else...what drives you?

For myself Ive always wanted to keep a lean look but with a muscular structure but not overly jacked.. Ive always trained hard

Something Ive also noticed, Ive read some guys post that their are benching 300+ pounds and all that jazz but can only do 8-10 pull ups? whats up with that? Just curious because in my mind id want to have a complete round package, not just have the ability to bench like a beast...

reading that before kinda baffles me as a strong back always helps with your bench...but having a weak back and being able to bench 300+ makes no sense to me....

By no means do I mean any disrespect btw...
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1) Not everyone trains to satisfy what you deem to be strong or not strong. Not only this, but most serious strength athletes who know their stuff tend to be of the belief that any more than 7-10 pull-ups is really unnecessary for growth and development as long as other movements are incorporated. But I suppose that you would have pull-ups in the worlds strongest man if it was up to you so...

2) the fact that you mentioned imbalanced lifters but picked on heavy benchers, not once but twice seems to come across that you are perhaps butthurt and trying to rationalize why you are better than all those '300 pound benchers' you so hate. What you failed to realize is that in the same way that it's bad to be imbalanced to where you can only bench, it's also bad when you are Leg strong but your upper body looks like that of a non lifter. And don't pretend that it doesn't happen because I've seen more guys who are good squatters and dead lifters but who fucking suck at benching. In fact, one of my best friend who powerlifts with me deadlifts about 100lbs more than me, yet I bench 100 lbs more than him. Does that make him strong and me weak? IMO I don't think so, and I think strong is strong.

3) stop sounding so butthurt if you suck at the bench just work at it instead of making excuses and rationalizations for why other people are better than you at it. My brother is a lot like you, and so when you say 'no disrespect' I see it exactly for what it is which translates to 'let me talk shit and not be challenged on my beliefs or opinions'. But yeah I a bench over 100lbs more than my brother too and all he says is I am just a 'naturally strong presser'?! So I don't work hard, or train consistently I am just born like this apparently. Bottom line is imbalances go both ways and IMO if you are leg strong and have toothpick arms you are just as bad as the '300 benchers'.

FYI I pause 350lbs@210 and 5'10 and it's not easy...
 
hammerfist2 said:
Well I was that guy... I could bench 405 but could not get many pull ups at all. Why??? Cuz I didnt care about doing pull ups. Deadlifts were my back training priority. That was the case until I decided to enlist and well then pull ups became my staple.

But here is the real question:
Whats more impressive. .. someone who benches 5 plates on each side or someone who does 100 pull ups, hell even 100 one armed pull ups.
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No one is more impressive but I'd be willing to bet you'd find many more people who can do a bunch of pull-ups as opposed to bench 500lbs. See how many in the marines are benching that vs how many do impressive amounts of pull-ups.
 
Where in gods name did i even come close to personalizing my question...it was merely used as a example.....i train to be well rounded...that is all the topic was more or less to gauge the motivation of the guys here ...im not butthurt at all lol you clearly took my intentions the wrong way...and fyi...you dont know me at all...
 
I've trained steadily for just over 30 years now and the reasons for training have changed over the years. When I first started at age 16 I was 125 pounds and I trained to get bigger. As I got bigger and stronger it brought a lot more attention from the ladies which kept me motivated for many years.

Now that I've been married for many years and in my late 40's I train more for myself than anything else. I enjoy being in better shape than 95% of the guys my age and being stronger than 99+% of the guys at my weight.
 
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