Here Goes Nothing (well Hopefully A Lot) First Cycle

[cdoubleu]

First off, thanks to the guys who critiqued my cycle. Was glad to hear my research paid off and things were looking good. Made me a little more confident to pull the plug and go through with it.

In the end i decided to go right in the middle of things since i was having a hard time with doing either 500mgs of test for 10 weeks or 400 for 12. Reason being i just got two vials @2500 since i plan for this to be my only cycle for quite some time. Plus im kicking things off with some anavar so i think it should be lots for a first cycle. Anyway totally excited and i wanted to post because i know how helpful logs have been to my research. Anyway... Here Goes

Week 1-5: 60mgs anavar/ED
Week 1-11: 450mg test e/W
Week 2-13: 0.25mg arimidex EOD "Adjust as needed"
Week 3-12: 500iu HCG/W
PCT
Week 14-17:
Clomid: 75/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

Liv.52 while i run the orals plus different natural supplements for help with Lipids ect.

First pin was today...went pretty well. Needle was much smoother going in than i expected so i completely buried my 1.5 inch needle as i darted it. Took forever to get the test out though. I started the anavar just a couple days ago so i could get a sense of my response to things on separate days and the var seemed to be no issue. All in all things seem good to go.

Later

 

[4leafclover]

Heating the test before injection will help the oil to move more rapidly out of the needle. Try either running the syringe under warm water for a few minutes, or what I personally do (thanks @lightspan) now, is to heat the syringe (don't heat the same needle you plan on pinning with) in a heating pad for 4-5 minutes.

 

[cdoubleu]

Thanks. I will have to give that a try for next time. I had even read that before but i think i forgot almost everything as i got ready to do this my heart was going so fast. (I even forgot to aspirate)

I think that would help a lot because it was almost impossible not to move the needle around as i was pushing the oil in since i was going for the glute.

I like the avatar btw clover

 

[4leafclover]

Thanks! I do all my lifts without gloves or braces, so I get a kick when I see folks in the gym who bring all kinds of crazy contraptions to aid in lifting. Like wearing a belt when doing curls... really?

 

[cdoubleu]

Ya i dont quite get that either. Wouldnt a person want to toughen up their hands.

So almost 24 hours since injection and pip is very minimal, just sore to the touch but not affecting my walking or anything. Pretty happy about that since ive read so many stories of bad pip. I was expecting things to be pretty bad since i know i had that needle moving all over the place trying to push in the oil. Virgin muscle too.

Today is day 4 with the anavar and nothing special to report on that. I dont expect much for a bit though. But getting ready for hockey so looking forward to see if its made any difference, if it has yet i will definitely know out on the ice. Will see how that glute holds up too, what was i thinkin injecting the day before hockey. Ha

 

[4leafclover]

You never increase grip strength if you don't use your hands. If you don't train lower back, you won't develop good symmetry, most lower back exercises also have the benefit of creating thickness for the center portion of the back as well. These areas are impeded from development with gloves or braces.

Jay talked about this, he used to wear braces, but said he focused on lower back for a year, and only uses the belt on dead-lifts now.

I can see needing wraps at the very upper limit of weights (like pushing 600+ lbs on squats, or dead-lifting 600 lbs), but most lifters will never get to this range. I can push over 500 lbs on squats and haven't needed a brace, so count me out of this upper limit (for the time being!).

 

[HuckingFuge]

I would use a belt if you go to 315 on squats and dead lifts. my belly started to bulge when I stopped using the belt religiously. I use wrist straps on back day. I'm working my back not my grip. if you want to get better grip strength get some Captain of Crush hand grippers

 

[4leafclover]

To each his own I guess, no bulging belly for me, been lifting without the belt for 18 years now. I guess since I have had physical therapy on/off since I was in my early 20's, they always made sure the core was flexed on every compound movement, so it's something I am used to doing while lifting.

At some point I might need wrist straps, because as I get older, I can feel a "tendon" stretch in my hands on dead lifts on some days. But, that day is probably another 3-5 years away.

 

[cdoubleu]

Hmm. Up from 205-208 already last night. That was dAy 5 of the Var and only 2 days after first pin. So i think i might have to say it coulda already been the var. Diet hasn't changed since i started since i was already eating above maintenance. Ive also been teetering between 204 205 for over a month.

Any thoughts? Think it could be the var already? Prob too soon for water retention for the test.

I better take some measures and take pre pics quick

 

[dmt31]

Hmm. Up from 205-208 already last night. That was dAy 5 of the Var and only 2 days after first pin. So i think i might have to say it coulda already been the var. Diet hasn't changed since i started since i was already eating above maintenance. Ive also been teetering between 204 205 for over a month.

Any thoughts? Think it could be the var already? Prob too soon for water retention for the test.

I better take some measures and take pre pics quick

anything + or - 5lbs could be anything from what you ate the last couple of days, to how much you've pissed, to whatever else. Var shouldn't be putting weight on you if it's legit. It should be helping to conserve your lean mass as you eat a deficit, it is in no way a mass builder. Too early for the Test to be taking effect as well.

 

[cdoubleu]

Very true. My thoughts as well. Thanks. I will keep an eye on it cause up 2 more pounds today. Seems a little crazy cause its not like ive every been this heavy and my weight doesnt fluctuate really.

 

[dmt31]

Very true. My thoughts as well. Thanks. I will keep an eye on it cause up 2 more pounds today. Seems a little crazy cause its not like ive every been this heavy and my weight doesnt fluctuate really.

That might mean your var is actually dosed with dbol, which is a pretty common thing unfortunately, you should try to test it or ask some people who have used the same source

 

[cdoubleu]

Thanks man.
Im hoping not, source and lab both got great reviews. Could be d-bol though. I took my first dose of arimidex(0.25mg) on monday which was two days after first injection. Day after that i noticed nips were already feeling sensitive plus the extra weight. So i took 0.25 yesterday and same dose today as well. That puts me taking 3 days in a row. Today i pissed so much and weighed myself this evening and dropped 3 of the 5 pounds ive already put on. This tells me i had some serious water retention going on, plus the sensitive nips already... Signs of some pretty early amortization
( more of a d-bol trait). Unless in your experience can a person react to test for the first time early like this? I did 225mg saturday and then again on monday, just in hopes of bringing my levels up a little sooner. Since monday pin im going to be on my monday and thurday routine.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Test and Dbol are both very high aromatase AAS.

 

[DeezNutz]

What size needles are you using to pin?

 

[dmt31]

Thanks man.
Im hoping not, source and lab both got great reviews. Could be d-bol though. I took my first dose of arimidex(0.25mg) on monday which was two days after first injection. Day after that i noticed nips were already feeling sensitive plus the extra weight. So i took 0.25 yesterday and same dose today as well. That puts me taking 3 days in a row. Today i pissed so much and weighed myself this evening and dropped 3 of the 5 pounds ive already put on. This tells me i had some serious water retention going on, plus the sensitive nips already... Signs of some pretty early amortization
( more of a d-bol trait). Unless in your experience can a person react to test for the first time early like this? I did 225mg saturday and then again on monday, just in hopes of bringing my levels up a little sooner. Since monday pin im going to be on my monday and thurday routine.

Yeah something doesn't sound right in terms of the sides you are getting. But, as long as you have adex, you should bring your e2 down pretty quickly, adex is pretty fast acting and strong. Don't overdue the adex though, I have done that, it's not pleasant.

 

[cdoubleu]

Test and Dbol are both very high aromatase AAS.

I defiantly knew that test was high aromatase i just was wondering if it could act that quickly to do those things. That would tell give me a better idea if my anavar is actually anavar.

 

[cdoubleu]

Yeah something doesn't sound right in terms of the sides you are getting. But, as long as you have adex, you should bring your e2 down pretty quickly, adex is pretty fast acting and strong. Don't overdue the adex though, I have done that, it's not pleasant.

I was pleased how quick the arimidex worked. Not taking today. Today woke up with no sensitive nips. So i think it did its job, now i will prob stick with my planned 0.25 EOD and adjust as needed from there.

 

[cdoubleu]

What size needles are you using to pin?

Going for 25g x 1.5"

 

[HuckingFuge]

I don't think your Var is Var from your description of what is going on. how is your lower back pumps on back day?