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Hey guys need some help. Been recovering since January till June. Started slowly training again in the gym in June. Was on 250mg test e per week which is my recovery dose. Started a cycle which lasted 42days and stopped it by end of July. Consisted of test e and tren a 875/265-310 mg. Cruised on vaca. Came back September 1st. Started that same night my blast. 175mg test e eod and 100mg tren a eod which is 612/350.

3weeks ago i pitched in npp for joint pain and to add a little more fullness. Started getting acne on my neck and skull. And now tiny white heads on my chest. Side effects are easily bearable. But I'd rather run 1 19nor because this is a bit reckless. However my shoulders have recovered very quickly on npp at 420mg per week.

What do you think:
Drop npp or tren.
And up my test dose by 100mg eod with test prop. If any acne from test arises i drop the prop. Fast acting. I have till January. Than i start my cut. Diet on point and training as well. 210-215 around 18% bf. 6'1. Started seriously training September 1st.
 
Totally agree with TEC. This post is a train wreck.

I suggest you have bloods done. Then take it from there. I honestly think you're still a ways away from running a proper cycle, and i dont think youre ready physically either.
 
Northern Nutrition said:
Totally agree with TEC. This post is a train wreck.

I suggest you have bloods done. Then take it from there. I honestly think you're still a ways away from running a proper cycle, and i dont think youre ready physically either.
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Diet is good 350-400pro 400-500carbs 25-110g fat.
Training to failure, always sore.
Strength is increasing steadily.
I just thought maybe i could decrease acne by doing one 19 nor instead of 2. So less of an exotic cycle. 2 compounds that's it that's all.
I know switching up for the same amount of gear won't really make a change gains wise because the hormones are fighting for the same androgen receptors. But we all know that test is one of the only compounds to do that in different ways. Test is the base and always best for size.
However, i am cruising in January. And for the next blasts I will go for shorter lengths such as 8 weeks at most with short esters. It will help me add muscle quickly and recover quicker. Also harder to reach hemostasis where body hits an equilibrium weight and doesn't want to increase in mass. Don't feel like bumping dose if that happens because more aas = more chance to side effects.
I like tren ace, npp is good, trying out test prop right now even though I'd always rather enanthate for test over prop. Unless i need it to kick in quicker such as my case now. Also, i want to try mast prop. I know it works very well with test or/and tren. Helps to reduce side effects.
 
And yea i do agree, I'm not so healthy atm and that's because i am blasting. I don't know anyone with perfect bloods on a blast. On a cruise i will try to get in the normal range or the best range i could fit in.
 
Im having a difficult time following your thought process. Youre all over the place and cant seem to concentrate and focus on the problem at hand. I also think you're just repeating a bunch of information you overheard from other "bros", and you haven't taken the time to really understand what youve heard or read.

And the 19 nor bro lore youre repeating is just that, bro lore. Two 19 nor's is fine. The only concern should be the volume and ester. The rest is bro science.
 
Northern Nutrition said:
Im having a difficult time following your thought process. Youre all over the place and cant seem to concentrate and focus on the problem at hand. I also think you're just repeating a bunch of information you overheard from other "bros", and you haven't taken the time to really understand what youve heard or read.

And the 19 nor bro lore youre repeating is just that, bro lore. Two 19 nor's is fine. The only concern should be the volume and ester. The rest is bro science.
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I am getting acne from npp but not from tren. My only concern on cycle is acne. The rest is usually fine. Acne is my biggest issue
 
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you need to get your estrogen under control. estrogen causes acne too and carbs being high also effects acne. try increasing your fat intake and lowering your carbs.
 
My advice would be pick your compound(s), pick your dosage, buy all your gear up front (anchillaries included), and run it and don't deviate. Let's say long esters for 12 weeks, get your test and MAYBE another compound with a long ester....pin 2x weekly and lay out a workout and don't deviate. STICK TO THE PLAN MAN!
 
mr_ectomorph said:
I am getting acne from npp but not from tren
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TANGO.ECHO.KILO said:
My advice would be pick your compound(s), pick your dosage, buy all your gear up front (anchillaries included), and run it and don't deviate. Let's say long esters for 12 weeks, get your test and MAYBE another compound with a long ester....pin 2x weekly and lay out a workout and don't deviate. STICK TO THE PLAN MAN!
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Yea i take my blast and cruise too much for granted. I deviate a lot because i enjoy confusing myself. I am stubborn and undicisive becaus3 i simply want everything to be perfect. But obviously... there is no such thing as perfect. There is such thing as experimenting and finding out what best works for me.
I like long estered test for sure. However, i like doing things like 6-weeks npp and switch to like tren for another 6weeks. It gives me the best of both compounds.
The only thing I'd use as a long ester is test. Idk if i would like deca. I would never touch tren enanthate that's for sure.
And orals... i never fk with them... i did superdrol and it destroyed my appetite and made me sh%t brewed coffee. I already have issues with downing food. And on sd i could barely eat anything.

Do you think i did a good thing throwing in 350mg prop a week and dropping tren? My acne is getting less i think. But test prop hasn't fully kicked in yet. So my bloods are still peaking and haven't fully stabilized yet to tell.

Today i had crazy pumps and i think tren is already out of my system. I know test gives me crazy pump at 875mg and over. Felt real good. Also my libido is increasing. I upped my adex this morning from 0.375mg ed to 0.5mg ed.
I dropped t3 which was at 25mcg ed because i took tren out so i have to watch my diet for the next 2weeks. I've been on t3 for 153days and I've used it as high as 100mcg ed on my cut 50mcg x2 a day. Also I'm wondering if the pump today was from dropping t3.
 
What cycle lengths do you guys prefer or suggest when blast and cruising. 6weeks is a bit too short for me because test e takes time to peak unless i use prop.
8 weeks sounds reasonable to me.
I really want to try running 1g of test on my next bulks as base for my blasts. I'll probably throw in tren at 100-120mg eod with it.

I like pining every compound eod. It helps keep my blood levels as stable as possible and it actually REALLY helps. Bostin Loyd gave this advice and i love it.
 
Thats not what i was referring to. You should take some time to gather your thoughts and present them in such a way that is not contradistinctive. No disrespect but you have 20 questions going in 10 different directions and its difficult for anyone to help someone who is scatterbrained.
 
Northern Nutrition said:
Thats not what i was referring to. You should take some time to gather your thoughts and present them in such a way that is not contradistinctive. No disrespect but you have 20 questions going in 10 different directions and its difficult for anyone to help someone who is scatterbrained.
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Your right lol maybe i should organize my thoughts. Well if you are stilling willing to help me, i have a question that has been on my mind.
What do you think of the action i did. I dropped tren because i was starting to get acne alot on my neck/skull and tiny white heads on my chest. So i was worried and decided to use something less androgenic like test. I used prop because i only want to blast till January first. So not much time is left and i want the compound up running in my system asap to get the most out of this blast.
The reason I dropped tren over npp is because tren has been in my system for 9weeks and I've used it during several blasts so i know what it feels like. Npp has only been in my system for 25days. So i want to see what it can do on a bulk compared to tren. I am still new to npp even though I've ran it once before for 6weeks.
Was this a smart move? Just wondering what you would have done in my case
 
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