First Cycle: Pre Contest Prop & Mast

[Golf0807]

Letro should be last resort, Letro stops 100% of estrogen production.

Yea I understand that but my goal is to keep E as low as possible during that time to minimize bloat, hence the reason why I'm tapering test down on the last couple weeks

 

[HuckingFuge]

I would use Aromasin IMHO.

 

[Golf0807]

For those that brew or know anything about this subject, is it possible to just get some EO and throw it in with every injection? My supplier said that my prop does not have EO, so maybe throwing it in there will make the PIP better

 

[HuckingFuge]

I would add extra oil before I would add more chemicals like EO.

 

[Golf0807]

Worst case scenario, do you think it would be a problem to drop prop and run test e instead? I know it takes about 4 weeks for test e to kick in so I'm worried that there will be a big gap between the short Esther and long Esther. Also not sure about running mast p with test e. I have some test e laying around so I guess that could be worst case scenario.

 

[HuckingFuge]

doesn't take weeks for Test E to peak. Test E and C peak in a matter of 2 to 3 days. look at the chart for Test C and E. you could switch no problem. I would just over lap the shot.

 

[Golf0807]

So would 250 test e and 50 prop be good? The only problem is if the test e gives pip too. And I won't be able to mix the mast for now cause I only have 3cc syringes.

 

[Golf0807]

Just for the record I have Balkan pharmaceutical test e

 

[HuckingFuge]

what are your doses your going to run and how often?

 

[Golf0807]

500mg test e (250 twice a week) from now until 6 weeks out. Then I'll reduce it to about 400

Mast p is the same dosage as posted in the OP

 

[HuckingFuge]

1ml Test E, 1.5ml Mast P, and .5ml Test P. that is 3ml, one day you'll take Mast by itself.

 

[Golf0807]

So that dosage will be at twice a week right? And my dose of mast by itself would be 1.5 also? That would only total to 300 mast per week

 

[HuckingFuge]

no, you take Mast EOD. Mast should be in every injection and at least once by its self.

 

[Golf0807]

Ok so the 1ml test e, 1.5ml mast, and .5ml prop will be EOD. 1.5ml mast EOD equals 600 per week. I probably won't have enough if I continue to run 600 throughout the whole prep. But I guess I can just get more

 

[HuckingFuge]

you need to take no less than 450mg of Mast a week.

 

[Golf0807]

Alright got it. So it would look like this:

Monday - test e 1ml, 1.5ml mast, .5 prop

Wednesday - same

Friday- same

Sunday- mast 1.5ml

How long until I can drop the prop and run test e and mast

 

[HuckingFuge]

I would do that for a week. EOD would be M,W,F,Sun,Tues,F and repeat. you could also front load the Test E if you want.

 

[Golf0807]

So by week 2 I should be good to do 2x week for test e? I'll continue to do mast EOD. Hopefully that doesn't give crippling PIP

 

[HuckingFuge]

that is my opinion. most of the time Test Prop has PIP. I found diluting Prop with oil lessened the PIP, a 1:1 ratio.

 

[Ozzy619]

What's up everyone, I'm going to be logging my first cycle which will be a pre contest cycle. I will be prepping for a Men's Physique (Class D) show on April 11th.

Some background:
Age: 21
BF %: 8-9
Height: 6'1
Weight: 195
Years of Lifting: ~5 years
Current caloric intake: 3200

I plan on getting my pro card within the next two years. I've competed in two shows so far (Nov 2014 & Dec 2014) where I placed 3rd novice and 5th open for both shows. From my experience, my class tends to be the most stacked out of all of them, I was one of the smaller guys. Keep in mind this is at the amatuer level, so it will only get more difficult at the national level. Here's what I have planned for this cycle:

Week 1-6
Test Prop 150 EOD (600 per week)
Mast P 100 EOD (400 per week)

Week 6-10
Anavar 60mg ED

Week 7-9
Test Prop 100 EOD (400 per week)
Mast Prop 150 EOD (600 per week; will be ran until Week 10, day of show)
HCG 250 IU's twice a week (total of 500 IU's per week; will be ran until PCT)

PCT Week 10-15
Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5
Nolva 40/20/20/20/10
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/7.5/7.5/0

I will be using Arimidex 0.5mg EOD (will adjust dosing based on symptoms, side effects, and blood work). I will be switching to Aromasin mid cycle once it arrives, meanwhile I will use the adex.

Reasoning behind structure of cycle:
Many of you might be wondering why I'm running a short Esther like prop, the reason is because it has a shorter half life and is in and out of your system quicker. Many people have said that prop holds less water as well which is ideal for me considering this a pre contest cycle. Prop will be used at a high dosage of 600 per week from weeks 1-6, then tapered down to 400 per week from weeks 7-9. Mast P is used as a hardener. Starting at a low dose of 400 per week, then up to 600 per week once test is tapered down.

I will be starting either tomorrow or Saturday. Also here are some pics from my last show in December where I stepped on stage at around 193

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/130180190@N04/16074572171/

Very good job on getting everything spot on for your first cycle. I like the idea of tapering down the test at the end of your cycle, youll look super cut. The only negative I have to say is 21 is too young to cycle, you have a great natty physique and once you start its hard to stop, you will eventually go back to normal. Your pct looks good too. I only like short esters as well, more bang for the buck. Good luck.