First Cycle: Pre Contest Prop & Mast

[Golf0807]

Alright so I did my injection about 6 hours ago. I'm now slowly starting to feel some PIP kicking in. Hopefully it's no where as bad. Did 1 ml test e, 1.5 mast p, .5 prop. Do you think the short Esther in the mast can cause PIP as well? I hope not. I'll find out tomorrow on how bad the PIP is. If the PIP is reduced then it's definitely the Prop. The injection had a little sting to it going in, I think it could be the test e, but it was very minor. Also I had a little anxiety about 45 minutes after the shot. Felt my heart rate go up for a couple seconds but went away fast. I think I was just anxious and nervous cause I happened to be reading some online forums about bad sides with test e. All this might be just getting to my head...

On a positive note, I had an amazing chest workout today! Definitely feel more fuller and veins are really coming out. The pumps feel amazing too they hurt so good! On the sfairmaster my calves get a nasty pump. That's good and bad cause after a while it starts to hurt but that's no biggie lol. Calories and macros have staid the same at 2900 and I've been doing 40 min stairs along with 10 min sauna (get rid of water and help the injection site)

 

[Golf0807]

Very good job on getting everything spot on for your first cycle. I like the idea of tapering down the test at the end of your cycle, youll look super cut. The only negative I have to say is 21 is too young to cycle, you have a great natty physique and once you start its hard to stop, you will eventually go back to normal. Your pct looks good too. I only like short esters as well, more bang for the buck. Good luck.

Thanks bud. I understand that 21 is young and I agree. But taking the proper procedures I believe I can have a successful cycle with positives weighing out the negatives. Unfortunately, I've had a few obstacles get in my way, as far as the prop and PIP, but I believe everything will fall into place as I'm constantly learning what my body agrees with.

 

[Ozzy619]

Thanks bud. I understand that 21 is young and I agree. But taking the proper procedures I believe I can have a successful cycle with positives weighing out the negatives. Unfortunately, I've had a few obstacles get in my way, as far as the prop and PIP, but I believe everything will fall into place as I'm constantly learning what my body agrees with.

Youll get used to the pip, prop is known for that, especially with virgin muscle. I prefer glute and delt im pins. Quads always cripple me. Just do a proper pct before blasting again so you dont permanently suppress yourself and you should bounce back. People say time on equals time off, but take more time off than that.

 

[Golf0807]

Youll get used to the pip, prop is known for that, especially with virgin muscle. I prefer glute and delt im pins. Quads always cripple me. Just do a proper pct before blasting again so you dont permanently suppress yourself and you should bounce back. People say time on equals time off, but take more time off than that.

I appreciate your advise man that helps me big time. To be honest, I actually put more research into PCT than the actual cycle. I'm very anal and picky when it comes to getting things right and one of the things I wanted to assure was a speedy and efficient recovery. I am going to be most likely dropping the prop soon due to its PIP. It's been almost 9 hours since injection and the PIP is VERY minimal at .5ml. I'm actually highly contemplating on not even doing the prop next injection and just doing test e and mast. My next injection will be left quad so I really don't wanna take my chances on not being able to walk

 

[Golf0807]

Also the prop leaves the injection site slightly swollen after about 8-10 hours. My right ass cheek looks like it has a mini golf ball in there when it's flexed. But it's slwoly going away. Clearly my body doesn't agree with the prop so I'm not gonna keep injecting it

 

[HuckingFuge]

I did subq in my belly with small amount of Prop that shit is crippling. damn virgin muscle

 

[Golf0807]

Good news! I woke up this morning with MINIMAL pip from yesterday's injection! I still used .5 of prop so it still did leave some pip but no where as bad as before. Tomorrow I will be injecting in my left quad. Is it okay to just drop the prop? I don't want to take any chances of crippling my leg and not being able to walk lol

 

[HuckingFuge]

lol you can do anything you want

 

[Golf0807]

Lol well I know that! So I will start doing 125 test e and 150 mast EOD. Or should I do 150 mast EOD and 250 test e 2x a week? It's pretty much the same thing except 2 dosages out of the week would be 4cc's which seems like too much oil. Would it make a difference injecting test e EOD?

 

[HuckingFuge]

that is fine. I personally like the bigger spikes in blood levels. if it was me I would do 500mg Test on Monday and run Mast Prop EOD.

 

[Golf0807]

Hmm idk about doing 500ml's of test in one injection. If I do 500 test that means I have to my mast of 150 also. That's 650 ml's which is an absurd amount. So I'm sticking of 150 mast and 125 test e EOD. Just did that today and it went good. I also started my anavar a little early today of 60mg ED. Will bump up dosage once I get closer to show time.

Worked arms and calves today and had an amazing pump. I'm really starting to see the diet kick in, cuts are slowly coming in. Veins are always pumped and looking thick. Still hitting 40 min sfairmaster and 10 min sauna everyday.

 

[HuckingFuge]

I do absurd things

 

[Golf0807]

So I had my most recent injection yesterday. Next one is tomorrow. PIP is very minimal and doesn't bother me much (and I pinned my quads too). Tomorrow will be my first leg session in about a week! Super excited and stoked.

So since I've bumped up my mast, im gonna have to get some more to last me until show time. Does anyone know of a supplier that has painless test prop? (I'm considering giving another source a chance, I actually like test prop, just don't like the PIP) Or should I just stay away from that kind of experiment and stick with test e and mast prop. I just feel like I would yield better results with matching esthers. Plus controlling water retention from test e will be difficult once show time is closer. But maybe I'm wrong, who knows. I'm also considering adding some Halotestin the last 2 weeks to really harden up. Or maybe some tren ace for last 8 weeks but that would be tough lol

 

[Golf0807]

Or another option I was thinking about was finishing up the mast p and buying longer ester mast and use that instead. What do you guys think I should do?

 

[Golf0807]

Alright guys so here are some recent pics from last night. Everything going good so far. Only problem is that I'm seeing a slight puffiness in my nipples. Im terrified of gyno so will be bumping my adex to .5 ED (was originally at .5 EOD). Do you guys think i should take some letro to reverse this? Or am I just being paranoid and will be fine with .5 adex ED? I'm still waiting on my order of aromasin to come in. But at the moment i have plenty of adex and some letro too.

 

[HuckingFuge]

is your Adex Pharma grade? you can finish off with Mast solo to give you the hard look. since your taking Adex you can't take any Nolv to help with the puffy nipple. when you get your Aromasin you can take Nolv in combo to keep puffy nipples gone or you can get Ralista. Ralista is suppose to be better than Nolv.

how many grams of protein, carbs, and fat are you consuming a day?

 

[Golf0807]

My adex is from sp labs. So when should I drop test e? I'm currently exactly 10 weeks out. And I heard running Nolva during cycle is not good? Do you think it's necessary to get a prolactin like caber?

I'm currently eating 2900 calories, 300 protein, 250 carbs, 68 fats

 

[Golf0807]

I actually weighed in this morning at 210. So I gained another 5 pounds despite being in a caloric deficit

 

[HuckingFuge]

My adex is from sp labs. So when should I drop test e? I'm currently exactly 10 weeks out. And I heard running Nolva during cycle is not good? Do you think it's necessary to get a prolactin like caber?

I'm currently eating 2900 calories, 300 protein, 250 carbs, 68 fats

Nolv can be run during your cycle. Adex just reduces the effectiveness of Nolv. that is one reason I would prefer Aromasin over Adex. plus people do not seem to crash their E2 when running Aromasin, like they do running Adex.

 

[Golf0807]

Yeah I know what you mean. I much rather have Aromasin since its a suicidal. No worries about rebounds or anything of that nature. But anyways I really feel bloated as hell all the time. I'm sure that will go away with time and as I drop the test dosage when show time comes closer. But besides that, I feel great!!

Oh and also forgot to mention, today when I was injecting my quad, I was moving a little too much. As soon as I finished my injection blood went in my syringe and as I took it out blood was everywhere. Kind of scared me but I know I didn't inject in a vein because I aspirated and air come up. I most likely was just moving too much. Didn't hurt or anything but it did leave a little bump on the injection site. The bump is barely noticeable now