HGH Experience/Help.

dajr225

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What up fellas. Put it my first ever order for some gh yesterday. I decided to go with Platinum Direct for the Grey tops. I plan on running 4iu per day to start, and running a minimum of 6 months. I just want some guys to chime in on their experience, especially if they've been using the greys. Should I go 2 doses per day? 2iu am and 2iu later in the evening? Let's make this a killer thread. I'd also like to hear guys results they've gotten on gh.
 
You will hear every variation of schedule imaginable, and of course goals and body type matter as well. For generics (never used Pharm grade myself), I go with 5ius/day 6 days per week dosing once per day.
 
I've heard of people taking their dose all before bed, but I've also read that it's counterproductive. I'm just going to start with 2 doses and see how I feel. Nothing beats real life experience. Everyone reacts different so I just have to find out what works best for me.
 
My opinion, your natural gh is at it's highest at night while you sleep, hence muscle recovery happens while you sleep...I always recommend morning and yes 1-2iu is for well being, 4iu is an OK start, if you don't bloat, bump it to 6iu, then 8iu if you can afford it and have no sides and your body accepts it well... Also, some people use the 7day on (every day)... others say that 5 days on and 2 days off is OK too... I personally stick to everyday... Hope that helps a little but this is a quite controversial topic... you may need to see what works best for you..
 
My opinion, your natural gh is at it's highest at night while you sleep, hence muscle recovery happens while you sleep...I always recommend morning and yes 1-2iu is for well being, 4iu is an OK start, if you don't bloat, bump it to 6iu, then 8iu if you can afford it and have no sides and your body accepts it well... Also, some people use the 7day on (every day)... others say that 5 days on and 2 days off is OK too... I personally stick to everyday... Hope that helps a little but this is a quite controversial topic... you may need to see what works best for you..

5 on 2 off is for if you're trying to stretch a kit or just trying to save money.. I agree, should be ran ED unless funds don't allow for it.

I've heard of people taking their dose all before bed, but I've also read that it's counterproductive. I'm just going to start with 2 doses and see how I feel. Nothing beats real life experience. Everyone reacts different so I just have to find out what works best for me.

I've read it's counterproductive, I've also read your biggest natural pulse is at night so it should be ran during the day..

I used to split 6iu into 3 shots, first thing in the morning, post workout, and late afternoon/early evening. For the past 6 weeks I've been doing the whole 6iu right before bed after @mands suggested it and the difference is mind boggling!! I wish I didn't waste so many kits splitting the shots.. And it's so much easier not trying to time 3 separate shots around meals..
 
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@johnnyBALLZ you and Brutus79 are who I got the idea of doing it all before bed from. I glad you posted because I wad thinking about going that route. It makes sense to me to do it all before bed. Seems like it would help with the sides.
 
Alright I just pinned 4iu of the Grey top. I'm gonna give the whole dose before bed a shot. I work 2 jobs and train 6 days per week. I really can't afford to be lethargic during the day, so I think this will work out for me. I'm open for suggestions though.
 
I just started my first kit about a week ago. I am running 5 ius and split shots first at wake up and my second before bed. This way I combat the lethargy. My job is very intense and dangerous, so I completely understand where you are coming from on being tired.
 
5 on 2 off is for if you're trying to stretch a kit or just trying to save money.. I agree, should be ran ED unless funds don't allow for it.



I've read it's counterproductive, I've also read your biggest natural pulse is at night so it should be ran during the day..

I used to split 6iu into 3 shots, first thing in the morning, post workout, and late afternoon/early evening. For the past 6 weeks I've been doing the whole 6iu right before bed after @mands suggested it and the difference is mind boggling!! I wish I didn't waste so many kits splitting the shots.. And it's so much easier not trying to time 3 separate shots around meals..

Hello to all, "new member"
Boys I was just reading through the thread and saw this quote. I've also read a lot of different ideas on when to pin. Same reasons everyone else has said. "Johnny", Just wondering what type of difference you found with doing it all at night:
Pos and neg if you saw both and what they were please!
I think this will give all of us (beginers) a better understanding of what to expect and learn though your experiences.
thanks,
MB
 
I woke up about 5 am with the worst Charlie horse I've ever experienced in my life in my hamstring. I hope this isn't related to the gh. I had to lay on the floor and message and stretch it for about 10 minutes.
 
All of these questions and answers are relatively academic UNLESS Biologic efficacy is determined via IGF testing.

Let's not forget NONE of the existing studies were conducted with generic GH whose effectiveness remains UNKNOWN excepting anecdotes.
 
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What up fellas. Put it my first ever order for some gh yesterday. I decided to go with Platinum Direct for the Grey tops. I plan on running 4iu per day to start, and running a minimum of 6 months. I just want some guys to chime in on their experience, especially if they've been using the greys. Should I go 2 doses per day? 2iu am and 2iu later in the evening? Let's make this a killer thread. I'd also like to hear guys results they've gotten on gh.
here's the thing many people don't realize thses grey tops and all this other ugl HGH is a waste of time and money. I'm speaking from years of experience .I my self has spent thousands among thousands on HGH before I got it right. Ugl HGH is mostly just peptides. I really didn't know why HGH was until I started doing sersotims and saizen pharm grade growth. I use to think hygetropin and all that other Chinese crap was HGH but its not. Its all peptide induced bullshit. They put PEPs in it to make you think your on GH.like peps that numb your hands and such. Not trying to knock your GH but if I could respectfully say from experience either go pharm or save your money for drugs that are going to give you a way better effect then the igf that's mostly in that HGH.
 
here's the thing many people don't realize thses grey tops and all this other ugl HGH is a waste of time and money. I'm speaking from years of experience .I my self has spent thousands among thousands on HGH before I got it right. Ugl HGH is mostly just peptides. I really didn't know why HGH was until I started doing sersotims and saizen pharm grade growth. I use to think hygetropin and all that other Chinese crap was HGH but its not. Its all peptide induced bullshit. They put PEPs in it to make you think your on GH.like peps that numb your hands and such. Not trying to knock your GH but if I could respectfully say from experience either go pharm or save your money for drugs that are going to give you a way better effect then the igf that's mostly in that HGH.
hey bro just wondering if you have any testing to prove the greys are peps. usually when people make bold statements id love to see test and bloodwork. A respected member named Micro on several boards has done both igf and serum tests for the greys and results have been nonetheless impressive. if you say theyre Peps wheres the proof?
 
hey bro just wondering if you have any testing to prove the greys are peps. usually when people make bold statements id love to see test and bloodwork. A respected member named Micro on several boards has done both igf and serum tests for the greys and results have been nonetheless impressive. if you say theyre Peps wheres the proof?
Hey you right I don't have test. I don't really care what this other dude said I'm speaking from experience and would bet my dick there not quality.do to the fact that real HGH cost 2200 a kit for the pharmaceutical company's to make. So think about that. You think these little kits going for 150 kit contain legit HGH that's just none sense. I have ran greys for months before I ran real GH and realized what a load crap all this Chinese shit is. The black market on GH is billion dollar industry people getting scammed all day. Like I said I have no proof only experience. Some day if you run serostims or saizen shit like that you will look back and say man I wasted a lot money.
 
i plan on running seros soon bro. betting your dick? hahaha i like that talk lol where were these greys from? and whether you care for him or not, he had blood serum and igf tests done for those and pharm grade.
 
i plan on running seros soon bro. betting your dick? hahaha i like that talk lol where were these greys from? and whether you care for him or not, he had blood serum and igf tests done for those and pharm grade.
What were the difference in scores from Pharm to Grey tops? and what brand of Pharm did he run?
Just curious.
I've been looking a looooooong time for Pharm at a decent price.
 
i plan on running seros soon bro. betting your dick? hahaha i like that talk lol where were these greys from? and whether you care for him or not, he had blood serum and igf tests done for those and pharm grade.
people don't realize that there is actually PEPs that can make seriem test come back higher I know it sounds crazy and I have argued it to much with people to get into it again. The greys I got where from the same company that was making the ripps.they switched over to the greys.
 
Hey you right I don't have test. I don't really care what this other dude said I'm speaking from experience and would bet my dick there not quality.do to the fact that real HGH cost 2200 a kit for the pharmaceutical company's to make. So think about that. You think these little kits going for 150 kit contain legit HGH that's just none sense. I have ran greys for months before I ran real GH and realized what a load crap all this Chinese shit is. The black market on GH is billion dollar industry people getting scammed all day. Like I said I have no proof only experience. Some day if you run serostims or saizen shit like that you will look back and say man I wasted a lot money.

First off, I agree if you're going to run GH run pharm but you're off on a few things.. It doesn't cost pharm companies $2200 to make a kit, that's just the ass rape price they're charging. Generic GH is certainly not a "billion dollar industry" either..
 
What were the difference in scores from Pharm to Grey tops? and what brand of Pharm did he run?
Just curious.
I've been looking a looooooong time for Pharm at a decent price.
check out outlaw and look for Micro. also go to ProMuscle and check out racepicks. both of these guys dont bs and pkay the suck sources weenie game. theyll call out sources w bad gh which they have and are honest guys. the serum testing i know peps can increase but what about igf?
 
First off, I agree if you're going to run GH run pharm but you're off on a few things.. It doesn't cost pharm companies $2200 to make a kit, that's just the ass rape price they're charging. Generic GH is certainly not a "billion dollar industry" either..
First off, I agree if you're going to run GH run pharm but you're off on a few things.. It doesn't cost pharm companies $2200 to make a kit, that's just the ass rape price they're charging. Generic GH is certainly not a "billion dollar industry" either..
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THOMAS ZAMBITONEW YORK DAILY NEWS06/02/2003 12:00 AM ET

Wanna buy an AIDS drug? Bodybuilders across the city are saying yes to that offer and injecting millions of dollars' worth of an AIDS drug that helps them build rippling, competition-ready muscles. In the past year, state investigators have uncovered a number of schemes to cash in on the underground demand for Serostim, a bioengineered human growth hormone that costs $6,300 for a month's supply and was approved to counteract the loss of weight and body mass that AIDS patients can experience. One recent scam directed by an official at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx swindled Medicaid out of at least $1.

7 million to funnel the drug to the sweat-and-barbell set. Serostim has become one of the hottest sellers on New York's multimillion-dollar black market in prescription drugs. "Drug diversion schemes are a nationwide problem that not only robs the city, the state and federal government of millions of dollars each year but places the public in jeopardy," said state Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. His office estimates that fraudulent sales of Serostim and other prescription pharmaceuticals amounted to 10% of the state's $3 billion Medicaid drug tab last year. "If you were to make a list of the top 10 diverted drugs, Serostim would be at the top and it would make up 40 to 50% of the cost of all diverted drugs," said Ken Karp, an investigator with Spitzer's Medicaid fraud control unit. Despite efforts by Serostim's maker and law enforcement officials to ensure the drug gets into the right hands, it remains plentiful in the city's gyms. "Every topnotch bodybuilder in the world uses it," said Dave Palumbo, a champion bodybuilder from Long Island and the editor in chief of the muscle magazine RxMuscle. AIDS patients are often the suppliers, according to some of the city's leading AIDS doctors. One Manhattan doctor told the Daily News he recently caught a patient trying to sell the drug to bodybuilders. Since then, he has required the patient to come to his Manhattan office for his daily injection. "He was selling it to pay his rent," said the doctor, who did not want his name used. Via AIDS grapevine Word of Serostim's swift muscle-massing powers swept through city gyms almost from the day the Food and Drug Administration approved it in 1996 for use in treating the condition known as AIDS wasting. Bodybuilders, who often work as weight trainers, may have first heard about it from clients with AIDS. The drug - which works by mimicking natural human growth hormone, the complex biochemical compound the body uses to build muscle, bone and organ tissue - can add pounds of muscle in a few months. Bodybuilders love it because they say it has few of the unpleasant side effects - nausea, or skeletal distortions such as protruding foreheads - that come from steroids or other growth hormones. During a break from training a client at a downtown Manhattan gym, Shawn, a 30-year-old bodybuilder, said he paid a pittance - $450 - for a six-week supply of Serostim. He used it in the months leading up to a competition a few years ago and said he put on 20 pounds of muscle. "I've tried a lot but this works the best," said Shawn, a former high school football player who agreed to discuss his use of Serostim as long as his last name was not used. "It gets you there a little faster," he said. "It's clean. It doesn't alter your skeletal structure. If I could afford it, I'd use it year-round.

" Because Serostim is not classified as a controlled substance, possessing the drug is legal. But it is illegal to sell the drug for anything other than its approved use. Serostim is one of the most expensive AIDS drugs on the market. But in the locker rooms of city gyms, it goes for about $3,200 for a month's supply - considerably less than its retail value. That usually means four boxes, each containing seven 6-milligram doses in powder form that are mixed with a solution before being injected. "It's so overprescribed that AIDS patients take one box and sell three boxes," said Palumbo, 35, who placed second in the superheavyweight division at last year's Dallas bodybuilding championships. Because of the drug's popularity, the maker of Serostim, Swiss-based Serono Laboratories, has been dogged by questions about distribution. Investigators with the U.

S. attorney's office in Boston wanted to know whether the company promoted Serostim for AIDS patients who had been losing weight but may not have been experiencing AIDS wasting, according to a doctor who was questioned. The disorder causes the body to consume muscle and organ tissue, instead of stored fat, for energy. Those suffering from AIDS wasting have lost 10% or more of their body weight, mostly from the loss of lean body mass. The state Health Department, responding to complaints that New York doctors were incorrectly prescribing the drug, began requiring physicians last year to get state approval before prescribing it. "This was a new, sophisticated drug," said state Health Department spokeswoman Kristine Smith. "It was not always being prescribed appropriately. Some patients were not having a wasting syndrome.

" Stepped-up security New York's Medicaid tab for Serostim dipped to $20 million last year from $50 million in 2001. Karp, who is also president of the New York chapter of the National Association of Drug Diversion Investigators, said the effort has limited the amount of Serostim on the street. To counter fraud, Serono revamped its distribution network to track the drug from warehouse to patient. The result was a drop in sales to $95 million last year from $124 million in 2001. The company attributed the loss to its increased security. But despite efforts to control sales, illegal shipments of Serostim continue. Spitzer said his investigators are continually adapting to counteract new schemes to funnel legitimate drugs onto the black market. "Health care professionals and others who sell this drug on the black market are on notice," Spitzer said. "My office will continue to investigate and prosecute those who engage in this dangerous and unlawful enterprise.

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