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hcg...does it have to be refrigerated after mixing
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It needs to be refrigerated after it is reconstituted, then its good for 30 days.
You can keep it in a plastic bag very close to an ice pack (but NOT in direct contact; you DO NOT want to freeze it!) and stow it away somewhere, but you will need to re-freeze the ice pack every day.
IIRC, you are taking large doses of T at the moment and want to regain testicular size. What HCG dose/frequency are you planning to use? You will need to make a huge reduction in your T dose or stop it completely for a while.
You can keep it in a plastic bag very close to an ice pack (but NOT in direct contact; you DO NOT want to freeze it!) and stow it away somewhere, but you will need to re-freeze the ice pack every day.
IIRC, you are taking large doses of T at the moment and want to regain testicular size. What HCG dose/frequency are you planning to use? You will need to make a huge reduction in your T dose or stop it completely for a while.
Northern Nutrition
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You can freeze hCG. I did it for years with no significant difference in performance. Simply pre load your pins and place them in a Tupperware container then in the freezer. (dont forget to leave a bit of air for expansion) Take one out 10mins before you're ready to pin.
Northern Nutrition
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Unfortunately there are no official studies on this, but i assure you many TRT patients and AAS users have been practicing this for a long time time now with success.
If you say it works, I believe you. In my own case, I have used refrigerated HCG older than 30 days (but not older than 60 days) without any noticeable difference.
I recall we had a thread on this a while back but I don't remember how it was resolved.
My question would be: what does freezing do that refrigeration does not do?
Deadballs
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Been freezing mine and balls are still massive,, well err, medium anyway ;-)
Northern Nutrition
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The transparent truth is Scally and CBS both chimed in and accurately stated there is no evidence available, other than empirical, that supports the practice of freezing. I have to agree with them. BUT...i have done this 30+ times and have never experienced anything out of the ordinary, or at least the results were what i was expecting, which was full and functioning testies. Also, this information (or misinformation depending on who you ask) has been discussed and the results made public by MANY patients on TRT including MANY bb'rs who use hCG on cycle to reduce TA and who practice freezing their hCG for the entire cycle - often 16 weeks long or more.
So in short, it works but nothing published in the medical community to support the practice of freezing. Conversely i believe there may be "medical evidence" suggesting not to freeze. But the results cannot be denied by me or many others who have successfully frozen hCG to prolong the life and potency of a single lyophilized vial.
Ok, you're saying the point of freezing instead of refrigerating is that it preserves re-conned HCG longer than refrigeration. I think it may also be true that re-conned HCG that is refrigerated is useable for much longer than 30 days...more like 60 or longer.
Before you do anything:
[1] What is your Total T and E2 on that dose/frequency? I expect you to be supra.
[2] Are you taking an AI too? Dose/frequency?
If you would want to have an E2 level in the normal range while on T + HCG, you need to have a T level in the normal range. You cant be supra. To do that you need to start out with T and HCG doses that approach normal from the low side, not the high side. My advice is to avoid using an AI entirely as it un-necessarily complicates the protocol.
Option 1:
Stop injecting T for ~ 10 days. Then start taking 35 mg T twice a week and 250 IUs HCG injected on the same two days you inject T. Labs for Total T and E2 at 4 or 5 weeks.
Option 2:
Stop T completely - stop injecting T for ~ 10 days. Start taking 500 IUs HCG three days a week (M, W, F). Labs for Total T and E2 at 4 or 5 weeks.
OR
Stop T completely - stop injecting T for ~ 10 days. Inject 750 IUs every 3 days. Labs for Total T and E2 at 4 or 5 weeks.
I've been on HCG only for nearly 1.5 years. 750 IUs every 3 days. Works fine.
What are your TT and E2 numbers on this protocol?
T is 585 and E2 is in the 20s.
That's good.
What part of the body do you inject the HCG and do you inject subQ or IM?
Also do you inject morning or night?
Anterior thigh, subq with an 8 mm slin pin, late afternoon.
There's no way I'd be on it for 18 months if it wasn't working!
Fine.
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