TB-500 and tendonitis

[Dr JIM]

Because AAS, including Nandrolone, do NOT selectively enhance collagen synthesis, their use will not promote or accelerate tendon healing.

In fact a considerable portion of the data on AAS suggests their use is more likely to WEAKEN collagen and promote tendon rupture.

That being said, the fact AAS greatly accelerate muscle hypertrophy on a disproportionate basis, compared to their bony tendonous attachments, may also predispose anabolic users to the development of AAS related tendonopathy

 

[rpbb]

being older in this game, I've found there's nothing better than a good physical therapist when you run into things like tendinitis. used one twice in the last ten years, and he straightened me very quickly

he said the same thing as Dr J, steroids build muscle and weaken tendons. he taught me proper techniques for my my exercises, got me to strengthen other muscle groups, and itdid wonders

 

[T_verde77]

Thanks guys for the great advice, I appreciate it. I do not plan on starting up aas again until I am 100%.

 

[naturalkon]

I have heard good things about A.R.T. Massage. I have been wanting to try it to help pain in my left elbow down in to my forearm. It's has gotten to that point where it's not gonna get better on its own.

 

[T_verde77]

I have heard good things about A.R.T. Massage. I have been wanting to try it to help pain in my left elbow down in to my forearm. It's has gotten to that point where it's not gonna get better on its own.

Thanks mate. I will give that a try also. n nice pic

 

[naturalkon]

Thanks mate. I will give that a try also. n nice pic

I like yours too. I'm an electrician also.

 

[Dark Eagle]

Dr

Because AAS, including Nandrolone, do NOT selectively enhance collagen synthesis, their use will not promote or accelerate tendon healing.

In fact a considerable portion of the data on AAS suggests their use is more likely to WEAKEN collagen and promote tendon rupture.

That being said, the fact AAS greatly accelerate muscle hypertrophy on a disproportionate basis, compared to their bony tendonous attachments, may also predispose anabolic users to the development of AAS related tendonopathy

Hi Dr Jim and Fellow Meso's,

This is an old thread but if you or anyone in the know can provide info I'd appreciate it. I'm 44 and competed once upon a time. No roid use but have been trying to heal problems to start cycling - I strained the brachioradialis and bicep brachi (short head) from repeated resistance training 'whilst' it was sore.......they are now chronic and despite all manner of treatments i.e. cortisone, physio, light weights, work around's, diet, 6 months rest etc they don't heal. I went back to training after this thinking they were ok but the pain returned.

I now do no isolataed bicep or forearm work but now back, chest & shoulder workouts are making them worse and have forced me to discontinue training. I have a deadline to get my body in shape for a TV gig and I don't know what to do... I was told about wacking deca or equipoise directly into the problem locations.

Thanks in advance to those that can give advice on this.

DE

 

[Dr JIM]

Dr


Hi Dr Jim and Fellow Meso's,

This is an old thread but if you or anyone in the know can provide info I'd appreciate it. I'm 44 and competed once upon a time. No roid use but have been trying to heal problems to start cycling - I strained the brachioradialis and bicep brachi (short head) from repeated resistance training 'whilst' it was sore.......they are now chronic and despite all manner of treatments i.e. cortisone, physio, light weights, work around's, diet, 6 months rest etc they don't heal. I went back to training after this thinking they were ok but the pain returned.

I now do no isolataed bicep or forearm work but now back, chest & shoulder workouts are making them worse and have forced me to discontinue training. I have a deadline to get my body in shape for a TV gig and I don't know what to do... I was told about wacking deca or equipoise directly into the problem locations.

Thanks in advance to those that can give advice on this.

DE

What have your physicians told you?

 

[Dark Eagle]

What have your physicians told you?

they don't advise on the steroids mentioned, just the standard response of rice

 

[Dr JIM]

What is/was the shoulder "tendonitis" caused by? Treatment although generalized to RICE may vary considerably depending upon the EXACT cause.

I suspect u have had an MRI, and if so was acromial outlet impingement noted?

 

[Dr JIM]

Assuming it's available, either posting or forwarding the MRI radiology report my way would certainly help IME

 

[Dark Eagle]

The bicep strain and brachioradialis was caused by z bar curls. And continuing to do them with the injury still present. Haven't had mri done.

 

[cybrsage]

The only real effect it will have on tendonitis is a reduction in swelling (which proper stretching exercises can do for you - and do it better) and aid in removing damaged cells and new cell replacement. It will not help widen the pathway (other than by the amount caused by swelling) or such.

CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, this study demonstrated, for the first time, that Tβ4 was down-regulated in ROS-stimulated PDLCs as well as Tβ4 activation exhibited anti-inflammatory effects and anti-osteoclastogenesis in vitro. Thus, Tβ4 activation might be a therapeutic target for inflammatory osteolytic disease, such as periodontitis.

Thymosin Beta-4 Suppresses Osteoclastic Differentiation and Inflammatory Responses in Human Periodontal Ligament Cells. - PubMed - NCBI

TB500 reduces inflammation and promotes cell migration (bad cell removal, good cell replacement). It also helps with wound healing and bone repair, amongst a great many other things.


Have you tried Active Release Technique (ART)?

EDIT: Just noticed someone else mentioned ART, I highly recommend it.

 

[Dark Eagle]

Cybersage, apologies for late reply just back from trip.

Thanks for your message and information - I'm awaiting MRI's and will look into a provider for ART. It sounds like effective! The Physio I've been seeing doesn't know about it.

My bicep now locks when its flexed and both muscles are super sore and not improving even with time so hope to find a solution fast.

Cheers,
Zack

 

[Dr JIM]

Cybersage, apologies for late reply just back from trip.

Thanks for your message and information - I'm awaiting MRI's and will look into a provider for ART. It sounds like effective! The Physio I've been seeing doesn't know about it.

My bicep now locks when its flexed and both muscles are super sore and not improving even with time so hope to find a solution fast.

Cheers,
Zack

Sorry but based on your description this is a chronic injury and remedies just don't come "fast".

You NEED a formal diagnosis bc only then will you KNOW what can or can not be done from a therapeutic perspective

 

[PenisSurfer]

The cortisone injection can make a remarkable difference in the inflammatory process especially if two weeks of immobilization are also complied with.

Thereafter certain exercises must be omitted for and some included, WHY?

Bc TE is A MECHANICAL PROBLEM with FOUR "COMPARTMENTS" the tendon itself travels bt two of those compartments!

What's in those compartment is primarily MUSCLE and when a muscle is used less extensively the compartment narrows allowing more room for the TENDON to move!

Probably the most important exercise is wrist extension exercises.

Suffice it to say if it hurts CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF MOTION, the weight or repetition number.

For more info Google "ten exercises you must use OR avoid for tennis elbow"

Why is a CCS injection better than a local injection of NSAID? There are so many anti-inflammatory drugs. What's so special about CCS?

Do you think any of these "healing peptides" could have beneficial effects by inducing tissue remodeling, lowering inflammation, etc? Obviously a "peptide" cant make someone immune to mechanical injury but that doesnt mean theyre worthless.

 

[cybrsage]

HGH promotes the creation of soft interconnecting tissue growth, strength, and elasticity. TB500 (a version of the body's naturally produced TB4) promotes the reduction of swelling and the removal (and replacement) of damaged cells.

Both those items would be very beneficial in aiding healing, but neither are a magic potion that will get you up and running immediately. They simply reduce the time you are down and out. For example, if you are to be out for 8 months, running these items may reduce that by up to 25%, or 2 months. Only you can decide if the cost is worth it.