Full body vs split for cutting

[Hammertime4656]

I was wondering if anyone could share their experiences with utilizing full body workouts followed by non-weight training days full of cardio work vs a split like routine such as back and bis one day, chest and tris the next ect..... I've used both pretty solidly, just curious to hear others opinions and experiences

 

[DedLift]

Realistically, I can only put 100% into 1 major body part per workout and 1 or 2 minor muscles. Chest, back, legs and even shoulders are they're own day. Trying to do too much is like saying you can put 100% effort into say back and chest in one session when I could maybe put 50% into each and not feel like I did enough for either one but enough to be totally exhausted

 

[Hammertime4656]

I hear you, honestly when I'm cutting my energy levels are horrible anyways, sometimes it seems my wheels are spinning, but I would agree, I guess the main thing with full body workouts is it allows you to be more flexible in devoting days to cardio while allowing your CNS rest especially when your schedule isn't the greatest as mine is pretty horrendous at times

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I had good results cutting with full body 3x/week, doing HIIT on three other days and a little more moderate cardio pretty much every day with walking only on the seventh day. Works well for all the reasons you just stated in the post right above and then some.

 

[Demondosage]

Competed in my last competition training once every 3 days, still got shredded with no issues, so yea I'd say full body works

 

[Docd187123]

I haven't done body part splits since I was a teenager and don't plan on going back.

 

[Hammertime4656]

I feel the more and more i see enthusiastic individuals that start hitting the gym, they seem to adopt this idea of body part splits because that's all they see in the media, it's trial and error but from my experiences and this is solely my experience, is full body workouts in conjuncture with hiit cardio days will not only aid In fat loss but also allow you more flexibility when hitting a plateau, if your gradual In your progression it's nearly impossible to plateau granted your diet is in check and gradual as well

 

[Perrin Aybara]

The idea that full body is only for beginners is laughable, too. There's a ton of logs on here that prove otherwise.

I don't know your goals, but full body doesn't have to be the typical squat, bench deadlift. You could make it squat, bench deadlift one day, front squat, incline bench, rows the second and then leg press, overhead press and Romanian deadlift the third. Then spilt up your other stuff, arms, shoulders, whatever between the days. The possibilities are endless and it doesn't have to be powerlifting focused, you could easily tweak it to bodybuilding if that's more your thing.

 

[Hammertime4656]

I've fallen a bit off lately due to an overwhelming work schedule, I'm just looking to get back to it and get everything fine tuned before I start my cycle I'm preparing, I agree completely I'm naturally strong due to my stature, I want to better my physique without completely annihilating my strength therefore I've decided to use anabolics, i never post much on this forum because there is soo much info already laid out just trying to soak as much of it up lol really just getting my feet wet and picking some brains

 

[Demondosage]

One of the biggest reasons full body training works so well is because it prevents overtraining. You nail each muscle group enough to stimulate a growth response but not to overkill it. The benefit of this is you can train a muscle often and be 100% every time

 

[Demondosage]

Arthur Jones believed in full body training and said "we never do anything in splits, do we breathe in splits or sleep in splits? Then why train part of the body in a split instead of stimulating the entire thing in a workout session?" Makes one wonder rt??

 

[Docd187123]

One of the biggest reasons full body training works so well is because it prevents overtraining. You nail each muscle group enough to stimulate a growth response but not to overkill it. The benefit of this is you can train a muscle often and be 100% every time

MPS is also increased post workout so by stimulating the entire body multiple days a week you can better signal MPS whole body as well. Plus for those like me, it's a great feeling having worked out EVERYTHING several times a week vs working out a single body part once.

 

[Docd187123]

Arthur Jones believed in full body training and said "we never do anything in splits, do we breathe in splits or sleep in splits? Then why train part of the body in a split instead of stimulating the entire thing in a workout session?" Makes one wonder rt??

The body works as a whole. Agonist and antagonist muscles don't work in isolation during normal everyday movement. You get more Specificty when working the whole

 

[Perrin Aybara]

One of the biggest reasons full body training works so well is because it prevents overtraining. You nail each muscle group enough to stimulate a growth response but not to overkill it. The benefit of this is you can train a muscle often and be 100% every time

I read a good article about this, I believe it was by Greg Nuckols. He explains it something like this. You do, say, 12 sets of bench once a week, you get the majority of your training stimulus from the first few sets and much greater diminishing returns for the sets after the first few. Now, if you do 4 sets 3 times a week you'll get way more out of those 3 sessions of 4 than you would from the 1 session of 12, plus you stimulate them to grow three times rather than one. Same amount of sets, just spread out. Anyway, I'm sure I didn't explain it as good as the article, but you get the idea.

 

[T_verde77]

I've always liked the spilt style better. they both work great. you can hit the body parts more frequently with the full body style workouts. as long as u have a plan and track your progress/what workouts you do..assuming your goals are serious, I don't think it matters a whole lot which style you do.
i like hiit cardio 6-7 days a week. fasted in the am on my days off. but im cutting down right now

 

[Demondosage]

MPS is also increased post workout so by stimulating the entire body multiple days a week you can better signal MPS whole body as well. Plus for those like me, it's a great feeling having worked out EVERYTHING several times a week vs working out a single body part once.

I'm the same way dude, its like once you start full body training its hard to go back!!! You look forward to nailing every muscle, and because intensity is higher with a muscle that hasn't been exhausted to the point of ridiculousness u seem to be more motivated. I stay way more motivated to train this way!!

 

[Docd187123]

I'm the same way dude, its like once you start full body training its hard to go back!!! You look forward to nailing every muscle, and because intensity is higher with a muscle that hasn't been exhausted to the point of ridiculousness u seem to be more motivated. I stay way more motivated to train this way!!

The pumps usually aren't quite the same bc you're not hammerin and spending all your energy on just one muscle but you do get a nice whole body pump.

 

[Hammertime4656]

Good stuff right here lol thanks for the feedback, full body seems more practical in the large scheme of everyday life, it seems you hear and see less and less of it in today's fitness world almost as if it's a vintage style of training but time and time again always shows that these "outdated" schemes tend to always hold true throughout the fitness world such as movements like dumbbell pullovers, weighted dips, and even things like rowing for cardio just to name a couple, are lost or forgotten by the newer generations

 

[Demondosage]

The pumps usually aren't quite the same bc you're not hammerin and spending all your energy on just one muscle but you do get a nice whole body pump.

I find the pumps to be more sometimes. When I do too much volume there seems to come this point where the pump almost goes away, I especially notice this w/ biceps. It'll get to a point where my biceps will begin looking distorted/flatter after too much, but if I just give them a little with a lot more intensity I get a crazy pump that stays with me for hours after