Microwave for heat?

[janzo]

I was reading an article awhile back and it was about a guy who decided to start brewing.
He said it took off like crazy. The weird thing was he said he was using a MICROWAVE OVEN to heat and melt the raws (made it easier cleaner faster ????) I never heard of that before but I am no authority on the subject.
Comments ??

 

[rutman]

I guess it's possible, but you don't know how hot the hormone is actually getting. That'd be the problem. Or the effects the microwave is having on the hormone.

 

[Big_paul]

I was reading an article awhile back and it was about a guy who decided to start brewing.
He said it took off like crazy. The weird thing was he said he was using a MICROWAVE OVEN to heat and melt the raws (made it easier cleaner faster ????) I never heard of that before but I am no authority on the subject.
Comments ??

I don't use any heat ever to brew. I have never before heard of anyone using a microwave. From what I do know about adding heat is it oxidizes tren and could seriously screw up long chain esters used in eq, deca or test undecanoate.

Wtf is this a race? Sounds like the guy is a fucking douche bag and cares more about supplying a demand rather than doing it right. Don't use a microwave, the electromagnetic radiation can't be good. Hell you should store gear in the dark to protect it. Don't follow his advice.

 

[janzo]

Actually that is exactly what the guy in the article said.
He just started making some products and he just got more and more business and he started blasting "shit" out using a microwave.
He was not interested in quality he was interested in the all mighty dollar.
I will try to find it again and post it article.

 

[mercury]

it is known to damage organic matter I am not sure about the hormones
Microwaves induce protein structural rearrangements not related to temperature, this is what I know. Possibly they do damage to hormones too ?

So follow just tested practices like regular heat, whatman filters etc

 

[XKawN]

I've heard of folks doing it. I have a hot plate that I use. Take it out and throw it on the counter and set a few other things up and voila.. I put my beakers directly on the burner. Can't remember what it cost.... like 30 bucks or so.

 

[nophat]

If you don't use Pyrex the glass could break under heat from microwave
Stick to a hot plate with a digital
Thermometer in the beaker
All hormones have different melting point
Bring the temperature almost to the melting point.

 

[bonacris]

It only take a tiny amount to heat to melt the powders. The BB does most of the work. A small bit of heat help speed up the process. I prefer a waterbath. I like to take pride in my work

 

[nophat]

Test and teen base take more than a water bath.

 

[bonacris]

Test and teen base take more than a water bath.

Have never tried these. Probably never will either. Thanks for the input. Learned something new

 

[T_verde77]

it could work. But I wouldn't do it. like they said no way to tell how hot it got.
But a microwave does work for sterilizing glass.

 

[XKawN]

I'm against water baths. Oil and water don't mix. Yeah, chances are you may never run into a problem, but why risk it. Beaker directly on the hot doesn't harm anything.

 

[Mairt]

I'm against water baths. Oil and water don't mix. Yeah, chances are you may never run into a problem, but why risk it. Beaker directly on the hot doesn't harm anything.

If you have tren in the beaker while applying heat, can you actually be sure how much heat the powder is directly receiving? Might there also be the danger that it could affect the hormone if it got too hot?

 

[XKawN]

If you have tren in the beaker while applying heat, can you actually be sure how much heat the powder is directly receiving? Might there also be the danger that it could affect the hormone if it got too hot?

You can use a thermometer. you could affect it, but we're talking somewhere above 600f. I've been doing this for quite a while so it's kind of like muscle memory to me. I set my hot plate at a certain temp and do everything by touch and sight. I doubt my oil reaches over the desired 250f that I set as standard. When the beaker is on the hot plate you can see the oil slightly swirl around. Basically mixing itsself. I then turn off the hot plate and allow the beaker to remain on the heated plate and allow it to slowly reduce its temp. While the oil is still very warm I then filter making it easier for your product to move through the filter.

 

[Mairt]

You can use a thermometer. you could affect it, but we're talking somewhere above 600f. I've been doing this for quite a while so it's kind of like muscle memory to me. I set my hot plate at a certain temp and do everything by touch and sight. I doubt my oil reaches over the desired 250f that I set as standard. When the beaker is on the hot plate you can see the oil slightly swirl around. Basically mixing itsself. I then turn off the hot plate and allow the beaker to remain on the heated plate and allow it to slowly reduce its temp. While the oil is still very warm I then filter making it easier for your product to move through the filter.

Brilliant thanks for clearing that up. I couldn't find anywhere else that gave a threshold as to how hot the max temp that tren can reach before being damaged. I have just put up a thread about homebrew I am planning. If you have the time to read it and give pointers it would be much appreciated.

 

[Big_paul]

Actually that is exactly what the guy in the article said.

Brilliant thanks for clearing that up. I couldn't find anywhere else that gave a threshold as to how hot the max temp that tren can reach before being damaged. I have just put up a thread about homebrew I am planning. If you have the time to read it and give pointers it would be much appreciated.

He just started making some products and he just got more and more business and he started blasting "shit" out using a microwave.
He was not interested in quality he was interested in the all mighty dollar.
I will try to find it again and post it article.

Brilliant. Why when it is never needed at any point in the process to use heat? No AAS needs to ever be heated for any reason during the process of simply adding raw to a solvent. You guys are way over thinking this lol. A 5 year old could brew better gear with simple instructions than most of the sources guys take for gospel. It's that fucking easy.

 

[XKawN]

Brilliant. Why when it is never needed at any point in the process to use heat? No AAS needs to ever be heated for any reason during the process of simply adding raw to a solvent. You guys are way over thinking this lol. A 5 year old could brew better gear with simple instructions than most of the sources guys take for gospel. It's that fucking easy.

where's that 5 year old? I'd like to offer him a job for 3$ a day.

 

[Big_paul]

Age discrimination? Equal pay for equal work.

How much easier could it be to dissolve your raw in a bb and ba solvent, add your carrier and filter into a sterile vial?

I don't know where members are coming up with these brewing methods. No heat is needed. Never