Need Advice

[eminem93]

-got up to 240lbs at peak not naturally, was a hint too fat though smh
-tore both rotatur cuffs and both labrums (auto accident and workout injury), need surgery and PT on both shoulders, also shattered wrist from punching out a steel beam
-prescription opiates taken daily for chronic pain which im sure damaged my natural total T levels
-currently down to 170lbs because i stopped lifting and only do cardio now, 6' tall btw
- was running GH 2iu a day but product was overpriced and am looking to switch to more reputable vendor as my GH serum test levels were not as high as I wanted them


-for my surgeries on both my shoulders and potential needed surgery on my wrist I am looking at a LONG recovery time (3 years most likely) till im back to 95-100% on everything in terms of joints/bones


-Looking to run GH, how many IU's per day would be ideal for 22yr old and only looking to heal surgeries w/ physical therapy at a faster rate (i'd like to cut that 3yr recovery down to 1.5 yr if possible)
-What peptides would you recommend to run for recovery? I was thinking TB500
-Also I would like to go on TRT as my total test has permanently dropped (200-250 level) from previous steroid usage as well as having to take perscription opiates daily from my injuries/accidents
-What AAS would be best to run for ligaments/cartlidge tears as well as bone strengthining/overall joint ligament strengthining, i am young and refuse to be disabled for the rest of my life from this
-Money is a factor ATM but in 4 months it will not be a factor.


-Anyways, put yourself in my shoes, I am already getting MRI's, surgeries, physical therapy, and I am looking to accelerate my healing process and if possible make my joints stronger than they naturally were before, has anyone had any success with stem cell research or anything of that nature? I am open to anything that has real results.

-Moving forward I will not be participating in HEAVY lifting as I refuse to risk injuring myself, but will consider running AAS combined with very light controlled weights and long reps to rebuild myself into great shape. I would like to get up to 220lb @ 12% bf or less. Can this be achieved w/ AAS, GH, & Insulin w/out lifting heavy, and instead things like very light lifting & safe exercises w/ focus on control, form, and higher reps? My diet would be perfect as well, I work w/ a dietician/doctor that focuses on


My biggest focus is injury prevention and healing first, getting back to great shape would be 2nd.


Thanks any/all advice would be appreciated

 

[RodgerThat]

So toget it off the table real quick, you are very unintelligent with you actions it seems. Having said that your only guessing your natty test is tanked from "opiates" and previous cycles. Get blood work done and get off the opiates and fix the issue not create another one with going on trt that's fcking stupid. INSULIN are you kidding me! Anyone that asks questions about using insulin should not use it that is for veterans in this world and I mean true vets not someone who's done it for 5ish years even more like 10-20. GH probably could help but I've had all of your injuries and then some and have never taken it. If you put in work, ya know real hard ass work you'll rehab quicker. Drugs ain't going to do it. It's on you to make yourself better and honestly it's also on you for some of the injuries. I'm suppose the gym shoulder injury is from bench? And punching a steal beam mmmm alright seems like a good idear. Oh and I know this is none of what you wanted to hear but unfortunately your purposed way and the right way are in opposite directions.

 

[Leancuisine]

@RodgerThat hit the nail on the head.

Don't rely on drugs intended for muscle wasting diseases and to bulk up cattle for surgery recovery.
My friend ran a test deca cycle purposely to help him recover from a back surgery... but A.) His injuries were caused by an IED blast (significantly more damaging than punching a beam) and he was badass enough to live his life off pain meds. And B.) He's a badass mother fucker who would have recovered fast regardless of AAS use.

What am I getting at?
Idk. Just do what your doctor says and rehab it. Steroids are going to strengthen your muscles faster than your tendons, regardless of how you lift.
GH is overrated for surgery recovery too. Not worth the price needed to be effective.
Just listen to the doctors, except the dietician. That person is probably fucking stupid.

 

[eminem93]

So toget it off the table real quick, you are very unintelligent with you actions it seems. Having said that your only guessing your natty test is tanked from "opiates" and previous cycles. Get blood work done and get off the opiates and fix the issue not create another one with going on trt that's fcking stupid. INSULIN are you kidding me! Anyone that asks questions about using insulin should not use it that is for veterans in this world and I mean true vets not someone who's done it for 5ish years even more like 10-20. GH probably could help but I've had all of your injuries and then some and have never taken it. If you put in work, ya know real hard ass work you'll rehab quicker. Drugs ain't going to do it. It's on you to make yourself better and honestly it's also on you for some of the injuries. I'm suppose the gym shoulder injury is from bench? And punching a steal beam mmmm alright seems like a good idear. Oh and I know this is none of what you wanted to hear but unfortunately your purposed way and the right way are in opposite directions.

1st of all you have no clue what my intelligence level is, so leave your negativity out of my thread
2nd I have more than just the injuries listed going on so you bashing me for prescription opiate usage is unnecessary, if you put yourself in my shoes for a day you would cringe at the uphill battle I face every minute of my life
3rd Insulin is the most anabolic compound known to mankind, I don't give a shit if you don't approve of my usage and I didn't ask any questions on how to use it, I've administered it to my diabetic family members for the past 9 years and have taken classes on it.
4th I already do physical therapy for an hour everyday and take a day off once in a while to allow for healing, working harder is going to hinder my recovery you fucking retard, you recover from resting/healing, not from working harder when you already do PT
5th Shoulder injury was from an auto accident I was hit by a drunk driver at 70mph, did you even read my question? Other one was from a snowboarding accident, and then iv had re-occurring incidents from heavy lifting as the ligament is already torn at this point.
6th I punched a steel beam because my girlfriend was punching me in the face and I wanted to beat the shit out of her with everything in me but I didn't do it but I had to hit something because I was so angry at the time.
7th None of your advice you gave me was helpful whatsoever, people like you are what completely ruin this forum
8th Go fuck yourself asshole

 

[eminem93]

@RodgerThat hit the nail on the head.

Don't rely on drugs intended for muscle wasting diseases and to bulk up cattle for surgery recovery.
My friend ran a test deca cycle purposely to help him recover from a back surgery... but A.) His injuries were caused by an IED blast (significantly more damaging than punching a beam) and he was badass enough to live his life off pain meds. And B.) He's a badass mother fucker who would have recovered fast regardless of AAS use.

What am I getting at?
Idk. Just do what your doctor says and rehab it. Steroids are going to strengthen your muscles faster than your tendons, regardless of how you lift.
GH is overrated for surgery recovery too. Not worth the price needed to be effective.
Just listen to the doctors, except the dietician. That person is probably fucking stupid.

Iv been "rehabing" it for 2 years now w/ PT after my surgery. I am going to do an explorative surgery to see what the issue with the pain is and I'm just looking to reduce the recovery time.

 

[Leancuisine]

1st of all you have no clue what my intelligence level is, so leave your negativity out of my thread
2nd I have more than just the injuries listed going on so you bashing me for prescription opiate usage is unnecessary, if you put yourself in my shoes for a day you would cringe at the uphill battle I face every minute of my life
3rd Insulin is the most anabolic compound known to mankind, I don't give a shit if you don't approve of my usage and I didn't ask any questions on how to use it, I've administered it to my diabetic family members for the past 9 years and have taken classes on it.
4th I already do physical therapy for an hour everyday and take a day off once in a while to allow for healing, working harder is going to hinder my recovery you fucking retard, you recover from resting/healing, not from working harder when you already do PT
5th Shoulder injury was from an auto accident I was hit by a drunk driver at 70mph, did you even read my question? Other one was from a snowboarding accident, and then iv had re-occurring incidents from heavy lifting as the ligament is already torn at this point.
6th I punched a steel beam because my girlfriend was punching me in the face and I wanted to beat the shit out of her with everything in me but I didn't do it but I had to hit something because I was so angry at the time.
7th None of your advice you gave me was helpful whatsoever, people like you are what completely ruin this forum
8th Go fuck yourself asshole

Originally reading this post I was thinking that maybe unintelligent wasn't the word, but more so irresponsible.
After reading your post I definitely am going to side with both of those.
I'm sure your uphill battle isn't that bad. There's always someone out there having a day way worse than you.

Why would you take insulin, the most anabolic (muscle building) hormone.
Once again, strengthening your muscles MUCH FASTER than your tendons, which will undoubtedly hurt you.

Are you sure you don't have a mental.handicap?

Oh, and since you're posting on an Internet forum, and talking like a high school spoiled brat who makes a little bit of money, I highly doubt you have thay much of a struggle.

 

[Leancuisine]

And to elaborate further, people like you are what's wrong with this forum.

"Thanks any/all advice will be appreciated"

Your words. You got the best advice, but it fell on deaf (and possibly retarded) ears.

 

[RodgerThat]

1st of all you have no clue what my intelligence level is, so leave your negativity out of my thread
2nd I have more than just the injuries listed going on so you bashing me for prescription opiate usage is unnecessary, if you put yourself in my shoes for a day you would cringe at the uphill battle I face every minute of my life
3rd Insulin is the most anabolic compound known to mankind, I don't give a shit if you don't approve of my usage and I didn't ask any questions on how to use it, I've administered it to my diabetic family members for the past 9 years and have taken classes on it.
4th I already do physical therapy for an hour everyday and take a day off once in a while to allow for healing, working harder is going to hinder my recovery you fucking retard, you recover from resting/healing, not from working harder when you already do PT
5th Shoulder injury was from an auto accident I was hit by a drunk driver at 70mph, did you even read my question? Other one was from a snowboarding accident, and then iv had re-occurring incidents from heavy lifting as the ligament is already torn at this point.
6th I punched a steel beam because my girlfriend was punching me in the face and I wanted to beat the shit out of her with everything in me but I didn't do it but I had to hit something because I was so angry at the time.
7th None of your advice you gave me was helpful whatsoever, people like you are what completely ruin this forum
8th Go fuck yourself asshole

From your clear and calm responds obviously I can tell your so incredibly intelligent I'm sorry all hail!
Let's talk about this "2nd I have more than just the injuries listed going on so you bashing me for prescription opiate usage is unnecessary, if you put yourself in my shoes for a day you would cringe at the uphill battle I face every minute of my life", I've broken my back had surgery on both my shoulders, dislocated my ankle while tearing my quad and tib fib rotating 30 degrees so when my knee would bend I would impinge my petella femural nerve and it would essientially drop me. I had all those injuries and you know what "drugs" I took? Fucking nothing, why? Because I needed the negative feed back loop from my body to not be dampened during rehab so I knew how far I could push. I did rehab for 6 hours a day it was my one and only goal no TV no excuses, I exhausted every form of rehab for months and months so stop being a pussy with excuses. If you want validation for your ideas then go to a different forum because no one here is going to promote such a stupid train wreck of PEDs to someone who is so young, is so arrogant and is so rash to advice.

 

[eminem93]

Originally reading this post I was thinking that maybe unintelligent wasn't the word, but more so irresponsible.
After reading your post I definitely am going to side with both of those.
I'm sure your uphill battle isn't that bad. There's always someone out there having a day way worse than you.

Why would you take insulin, the most anabolic (muscle building) hormone.
Once again, strengthening your muscles MUCH FASTER than your tendons, which will undoubtedly hurt you.

Are you sure you don't have a mental.handicap?

Oh, and since you're posting on an Internet forum, and talking like a high school spoiled brat who makes a little bit of money, I highly doubt you have thay much of a struggle.

i said once full recovery would it be possible to get back to like 230lb with lightweight but many reps using slin,gh,aas

I am a diabetic myself, i already have to use slin so idk why your tryna instigate, but go ahead, keep talking, just give me a reason buddy

 

[eminem93]

From your clear and calm responds obviously I can tell your so incredibly intelligent I'm sorry all hail!
Let's talk about this "2nd I have more than just the injuries listed going on so you bashing me for prescription opiate usage is unnecessary, if you put yourself in my shoes for a day you would cringe at the uphill battle I face every minute of my life", I've broken my back had surgery on both my shoulders, dislocated my ankle while tearing my quad and tib fib rotating 30 degrees so when my knee would bend I would impinge my petella femural nerve and it would essientially drop me. I had all those injuries and you know what "drugs" I took? Fucking nothing, why? Because I needed the negative feed back loop from my body to not be dampened during rehab so I knew how far I could push. I did rehab for 6 hours a day it was my one and only goal no TV no excuses, I exhausted every form of rehab for months and months so stop being a pussy with excuses. If you want validation for your ideas then go to a different forum because no one here is going to promote such a stupid train wreck of PEDs to someone who is so young, is so arrogant and is so rash to advice.

I have friends who are PT's and doctors and your advice is to do physical therapy for 6 hours a day? Clearly you are completely delusional, I have a list of about 70 things I have to get done everyday. I don't have time to do 6 hours of PT. If you have the time to waste on 6 hours ED of PT then you don't have much going on in your life.

Idc about all the injuries you've had. I took prescription opiate usage because I don't have to be in pain 24/7. Excuse me for being a human being and wanting to be able to sleep at night.


Trainwreck of PED's? It's GH and TB500 for speeding up the healing process. This is a steroid forum. The other stuff i've already used and the only other one id consider using is possibly oxandrolone as i've read it can help with injuries.

Did you not read #1 priority = heal my injuries completely first, obviously i wouldnt be using slin to bulk or tren when im trying to heal my injuries, only slin so i dont fucking die you idiot

#2 = getting back in shape

Idc how hard you think you are, i have friends in the military working on high profile cases in the middle east and they take opiates too everyday from injuries from explosions they've had and bullets they've been hit with. they must be pussies too right?

 

[Leancuisine]

i said once full recovery would it be possible to get back to like 230lb with lightweight but many reps using slin,gh,aas

I am a diabetic myself, i already have to use slin so idk why your tryna instigate, but go ahead, keep talking, just give me a reason buddy

A reason for what?
I'm in Georgia, just outside Atlanta. Want to come here? I'm all game. Been far too long since I've made the green grass grow.

If not, shut the fuck up and stop stoking fires.

You want to talk about a tough life?
My life isn't tough, not at all, but you think your little "shoulder surgery" is tough? Boo fucking hoo.
When I was 19 I had the pleasure of pulling a chunk of my best friends femur out of my thigh in a bum fuck valley I'm Afghanistan.
2 weeks later I got to fly to Germany with him, clean and dress his legless corpse and seal him away in his casket.
Then I fractured my hip outside a bum fuck village on the Pakistan/afghanistan border in an IED blast, and later broke it doing an airborne jump in south korea.


You spoiled ignorant piece of shit. Please do. Come make my fucking day mother fucker.

 

[Leancuisine]

I have friends who are PT's and doctors and your advice is to do physical therapy for 6 hours a day? Clearly you are completely delusional, I have a list of about 70 things I have to get done everyday. I don't have time to do 6 hours of PT. If you have the time to waste on 6 hours ED of PT then you don't have much going on in your life.

Idc about all the injuries you've had. I took prescription opiate usage because I don't have to be in pain 24/7. Excuse me for being a human being and wanting to be able to sleep at night.


Trainwreck of PED's? It's GH and TB500 for speeding up the healing process. This is a steroid forum. The other stuff i've already used and the only other one id consider using is possibly oxandrolone as i've read it can help with injuries.

Did you not read #1 priority = heal my injuries completely first, obviously i wouldnt be using slin to bulk or tren when im trying to heal my injuries, only slin so i dont fucking die you idiot

#2 = getting back in shape

Idc how hard you think you are, i have friends in the military working on high profile cases in the middle east and they take opiates too everyday from injuries from explosions they've had and bullets they've been hit with. they must be pussies too right?

Hahaha. You don't have friends working on high class shit. Fuckin lunatic. Get the fuck out this board and go over to evo.

Goddamn you made me lose my cool.

 

[RodgerThat]

I have friends who are PT's and doctors and your advice is to do physical therapy for 6 hours a day? Clearly you are completely delusional, I have a list of about 70 things I have to get done everyday. I don't have time to do 6 hours of PT. If you have the time to waste on 6 hours ED of PT then you don't have much going on in your life.

Idc about all the injuries you've had. I took prescription opiate usage because I don't have to be in pain 24/7. Excuse me for being a human being and wanting to be able to sleep at night.


Trainwreck of PED's? It's GH and TB500 for speeding up the healing process. This is a steroid forum. The other stuff i've already used and the only other one id consider using is possibly oxandrolone as i've read it can help with injuries.

Did you not read #1 priority = heal my injuries completely first, obviously i wouldnt be using slin or tren when im trying to heal my injuries

#2 = getting back in shape

Idc how hard you think you are, i have friends in the military working on high profile cases in the middle east and they take opiates too everyday from injuries from explosions they've had and bullets they've been hit with. they must be pussies too right?

Never said I was hard and you know that physical therapy doesn't mean just working out right? Massage therapy, shock therapy, accupuncture, active release pressure, Chiropracter, yoga, stretching just to name a few. And ya I had 6 hours a day because I'm up 16-17 hours a day work 8 hours (light duties) and my foods preprepped so what else am I suppose to do lie down and pop pills feeling sorry for myself looking for excuses? Ya that seems like a better option. Never said I'm hard cause I'm not but will do anything to make my body functional. You go use your cocktail of drugs and report back you seem to think your smarter then everyone anyways. Oh and thank your buddies for their service but don't compare yourself to them you are simply someone who couldn't control his temper in a stressful situation. if my girl punched me in the face id give her a big fucking hug cause I did something wrong not flip shit and punch a steal beam, but wait it's you! You couldn't have done anything wrong must have been that crazy bitches fault!

 

[Leancuisine]

You really pissed me off with that last comment mother fucker. Being as someone who was medically retired from SOF last March, you don't get that shit. And if you do, you get benched and don't go out on target.

You've heard it. You aren't getting your agreement here.

I'm medically retired, I don't work, nor do I sleep (side effect from ACTUALLY being blown up - TBI) so I have nothing better to do.

But apparently 30 of your 70 things to do throughout the day is to be a jackass on the Internet.
I'm sure another 30 is to be a jackass in the real world.
And the final ten are probably a toss up between drooling on yourself and sniffing your hand everytime it touches something below your belt line.
Go lick a window or something.

 

[eminem93]

A reason for what?
I'm in Georgia, just outside Atlanta. Want to come here? I'm all game. Been far too long since I've made the green grass grow.

If not, shut the fuck up and stop stoking fires.

You want to talk about a tough life?
My life isn't tough, not at all, but you think your little "shoulder surgery" is tough? Boo fucking hoo.
When I was 19 I had the pleasure of pulling a chunk of my best friends femur out of my thigh in a bum fuck valley I'm Afghanistan.
2 weeks later I got to fly to Germany with him, clean and dress his legless corpse and seal him away in his casket.
Then I fractured my hip outside a bum fuck village on the Pakistan/afghanistan border in an IED blast, and later broke it doing an airborne jump in south korea.


You spoiled ignorant piece of shit. Please do. Come make my fucking day mother fucker.

you live in atlanta? that's cute bro. i live in detroit. iv been shot and stabbed, been homeless, etc. I had my face and skull pounded in with a rock the size of a bowling ball and had all my cheek bones shattered in and the back of my skull split open. I lost so much blood that I died but they brought me back and I was stuck in a coma for a long time.

and let me tell you my shoulder problems were 100x more painful than being shot or stabbed or having my face and skull busted in, wanna know why? BECAUSE IT DIDNT FUCKING HEAL FOR 2 YEARS, BOTH MY SHOULDERS HAVE BEEN HURTING NONSTOP FOR 2 YEARS, SO IM ASKING ADVICE ON HOW TO MAKE IT HEAL BECAUSE MY SURGERY DIDNT WORK NOR DID PT AND IM CONSIDERING DOING A SECOND SURGERY TO REATTACH EVERYTHING AND SEE WTF IS GOING ON, i dont get why the fuck ur arguing with me

im sorry about your friend, thats hard, i started a charity organization helping build homes that are handicap accessible for veteran soldiers who lost there limbs and whatnot.

 

[Leancuisine]

you live in atlanta? that's cute bro. i live in detroit. iv been shot and stabbed, been homeless, etc. I had my face and skull pounded in with a rock the size of a bowling ball and had all my cheek bones shattered in and the back of my skull split open. I lost so much blood that I died but they brought me back and I was stuck in a coma for a long time.

and let me tell you my shoulder problems were 100x more painful than being shot or stabbed or having my face and skull busted in, wanna know why? BECAUSE IT DIDNT FUCKING HEAL FOR 2 YEARS, BOTH MY SHOULDERS HAVE BEEN HURTING NONSTOP FOR 2 YEARS, SO IM ASKING ADVICE ON HOW TO MAKE IT HEAL BECAUSE MY SURGERY DIDNT WORK NOR DID PT AND IM CONSIDERING DOING A SECOND SURGERY TO REATTACH EVERYTHING AND SEE WTF IS GOING ON, i dont get why the fuck ur arguing with me

im sorry about your friend, thats hard, i started a charity organization helping build homes that are handicap accessible for veteran soldiers who lost there limbs and whatnot.

I know for a fact everything you just said is bullshit.

I would recommend you go suck a dick, but it sounds like you're already deep throat ing your own cock.
Didn't mention atlanta to act tough. Told you that so if you are in the area, I can put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

But hey. I'm sure you have lots of things on your endless list of duties to get cracking at.

 

[Leancuisine]

And stop talking about the fucking military

 

[eminem93]

Hahaha. You don't have friends working on high class shit. Fuckin lunatic. Get the fuck out this board and go over to evo.

Goddamn you made me lose my cool.

really you dont think i have friends working on high class shit? cuz clearly you know bro. my godfather was a vietnam war veteran

I know for a fact everything you just said is bullshit.

I would recommend you go suck a dick, but it sounds like you're already deep throat ing your own cock.
Didn't mention atlanta to act tough. Told you that so if you are in the area, I can put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

But hey. I'm sure you have lots of things on your endless list of duties to get cracking at.

yeah bro cuz u know right? internet wannabe fucking hardass

 

[Leancuisine]

really you dont think i have friends working on high class shit? cuz clearly you know bro. my godfather was a vietnam war veteran


yeah bro cuz u know right? internet wannabe fucking hardass

Was this a self reflection or aimed towards me?
I would continue with you, but it's pointless since you're in Chicago.

I was being honest when I said Evo will be your better bet. Specifically talk with Dylan Gemelli.
Everything else I said is in good standing too. I'll be in ATL until November.

 

[Leancuisine]

really you dont think i have friends working on high class shit? cuz clearly you know bro. my godfather was a vietnam war veteran


yeah bro cuz u know right? internet wannabe fucking hardass

And yes. SOF is special operations forces. Was stationed in Fort Benning under the 3rd battalion of the 75th ranger regiment. It's tier 1 SOF when you go OCONUS. Anyone above Tier 1 would not and can not tell you if they are going anywhere. Jackass.
So no, you do not have friends on high class shit