First cycle plan Test E

[Gymrat26]

Hi I'm planning to start my first cycle very soon. I've been doing research for a long time and I'm going to have everything on hand. For this cycle my goal is to put on around 10-15lbs of lean mass but anything extra would be a benefit. I'm 21 years old, 5'10, 182lbs. Training 3 years 5-6 days a week. High carb/calorie/protein diet. I've went from 140-182 with minimal body fat in 3 years. On cycle plan is training 6-7 days a week possibly no rest days. I take the gym and diet very serious and this is why I am deciding to go through with this and have done my research deciding to get everything on hand. Here is my cycle layout:

Test E week 1-10 250 mg/2x week
HCG week 1:10 250 IU/2x week same days as test with insulin syringe
Arimidex week 1-12: 0.25mg EOD maybe bump to 0.50mg if I see any sides of gyno/itchy nipples occur
Week 12-15 start PCT
Clomid: 50/50/50/25
Nolvadex: 30/20/20/20

One thing I'm skeptical about is if I should start the PCT 2 weeks after last pin or 3 weeks after last pin with a 10 week test cycle? Thanks for reading any help/advice appreciated.

 

[Murphthedon]

142-182 in three years is awesome man. If you're still getting natty gains id hold off on the juice. You're 21, I'm hoping you have a dec job because this road you're about to embark on is only going to get more expensive. Are you ok with potentially ruining your ability to have children? How about obtaining bitch tits, acne and ED? All very real possibilities and the risks only increase the more you don't know. Let's say your gear is fire but your AI is dog shit, you got enough cash to get that pharm grade overnightes in case of emergency?

Any way man I know you're going to do it regardless so here's some tips

Up it to 12 weeks, start pct after 2 weeks last injection

My opinion is save HCG for last few weeks of cycles before pct.

Steroids aren't magic, don't try and cut/bulk at same time, don't expect dramatic results/ take a rest day. Weeks 6 and onward don't be trying to set new PRs on 1rep Max, you'll tear your shit.

Goodluck


I'll tell you this, I'm very happy I waited until I was 25, no way I had the maturity and the founds to cycle proper at a fresh 21, way to much social life/partying and trying to figure out adulthood.


Unless you're at a high level and have coaches and competitors around you that see potential in you, don't fuck with it

 

[Gymrat26]

142-182 in three years is awesome man. If you're still getting natty gains id hold off on the juice. You're 21, I'm hoping you have a dec job because this road you're about to embark on is only going to get more expensive. Are you ok with potentially ruining your ability to have children? How about obtaining bitch tits, acne and ED? All very real possibilities and the risks only increase the more you don't know. Let's say your gear is fire but your AI is dog shit, you got enough cash to get that pharm grade overnightes in case of emergency?

Any way man I know you're going to do it regardless so here's some tips

Up it to 12 weeks, start pct after 2 weeks last injection

My opinion is save HCG for last few weeks of cycles before pct.

Steroids aren't magic, don't try and cut/bulk at same time, don't expect dramatic results/ take a rest day. Weeks 6 and onward don't be trying to set new PRs on 1rep Max, you'll tear your shit.

Goodluck


I'll tell you this, I'm very happy I waited until I was 25, no way I had the maturity and the founds to cycle proper at a fresh 21, way to much social life/partying and trying to figure out adulthood.


Unless you're at a high level and have coaches and competitors around you that see potential in you, don't fuck with it

Thanks for the advice but I've only got two bottles of test e 250 10ml so I think I will stick to 10 weeks at 500mg/ week. What do you mean by holding off on the HCG? Also the clomid/nolvadex and AI I have is all pharm grade so I should be good on that.

 

[Murphthedon]

Thanks for the advice but I've only got two bottles of test e 250 10ml so I think I will stick to 10 weeks at 500mg/ week. What do you mean by holding off on the HCG? Also the clomid/nolvadex and AI I have is all pharm grade so I should be good on that.

The fact that you can't get more alone tells me you shouldn't be doing this

And I mean exactly that, hold off on the HCG until the last 3 weeks of cycle. Taking test is basically shutting a light switch off in your body to continue making natural test, why keep trying to confuse your body turnibg the lights back on 2 times a week, leave um off until you need them.

Hope more people reply to you bud

But they won't because you're 21, 5'10 180 and wanting to juice lol

 

[Gymrat26]

The fact that you can't get more alone tells me you shouldn't be doing this, but if it was in my hands at 21 nobody would be able to me.

And I mean exactly that, hold off on the HCG until the last 3 weeks of cycle. Taking test is basically shutting a light switch off in your body to continue making natural test, why keep trying to confuse your body turnibg the lights back on 2 times a week, leave um off until you need them.

Hope more people reply to you bud

But they won't because you're 21, 5'10 180 and wanting to juice lol

I can get more but I am choosing not to. After lots of research it seemed like starting the HCG when you start the test would be the better option towards going into pct. I've read a lot of things about people saying do HCG towards the end but in larger doses but I was thinking 500iu weekly would be better and then allow it for some time off so when I start pct everything is clear in my system. The only person I heard recommended HCG at the end was Rich Piana but I'm not rich piana and won't be doing a heavy cycle. this my first cycle so I'm thinking HCG along with test weeks 1-10

 

[Murphthedon]

I can get more by I am choosing not to. After lots of research it seemed like starting the HCG when you start the test would be the better option towards going into pct. I've read a lot of things about people saying do HCG towards the end but in larger doses but I was thinking 500iu weekly would be better and then allow it for some time off so when I start pct everything is clear in my system. The only person I heard recommended HCG at the end was Rich Piana, but I'm not rich piana and this my first cycle so I'm thinking HCG along with test weeks 1-10

Ok, Good luck.

 

[Gymrat26]

Thanks. I posted this for advice that anyone could give regarding the layout I have set up.

 

[Murphthedon]

Thanks but I didn't come here for people's approval. I posted this for advice that anyone could give regarding the layout I have set up.

No you didn't, you shot down every peice of advice given to you. All you want is for someone to tell you what you want to hear.

You're not ready man, you've been warned

 

[Savagesteve]

I'm gonna jump on what @Murphthedon said and agree that you're too young. With us knowing that you're gonna do what you want regardless here is what I think. Test dosage looks fine besides I would run it 12 weeks as the test e won't really start to kick in until about week 3ish. Some guys run hcg while on cycle and some run it between last pin and before pct. I see most recommend your dosing protocol while on cycle so if you're gonna run hcg do it the way you listed. You ai and pct look fine as well. I'll give it to you that you did more research than 80% of the guys do on here so good luck with the run and keep us updated in the cycle log section.

 

[Gymrat26]

I plan on starting Monday. Got everything on hand now. The one think I'm deciding on is my HCG usage. Do I need HCG for a first time 10 week test cycle? If so what weeks should I start and what would be the best dosage protocol? Thank you

 

[Savagesteve]

I plan on starting Monday. Got everything on hand now. The one think I'm deciding on is my HCG usage. Do I need HCG for a first time 10 week test cycle? If so what weeks should I start and what would be the best dosage protocol? Thank you

Some do 500iu split into 2 pins a week throughout the cycle. Some do it at the end of the cycle but I'm not sure on the dosage protocol for that.