Test_Subject
New Member
It is, unless you're a fucking special ed student.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
First Cycle and PCT
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It is, unless you're a fucking special ed student.
Test_Subject
New Member
Your local drug store. I bought enough for a prop cycle for like 15 bucks. Just walk in and ask for them.
ChestRockwell
Member
After reviewing your post history, I now recall you are the gentleman wanting to blast trenbolone to "lose 1-2% bodyfat over 12 week blast"...
So, I'll allow folks to take into context your vast experience with hormones when they decide whose advise to heed.
Test_Subject
New Member
300mg a week is hardly a "blast" retard. Re-read what you want to believe that I said.
What does trenbolone have to do with anti-estrogen drugs? I've never taken tren, therefore I don't know how aromasin works?
Fuck man, educate yourself.
ChestRockwell
Member
Ad hominems are the classic "go to" for individuals when they realize they are fighting a losing battle...
Your post history demonstrates that you have very little AAS experience and come into threads advising others as if you are an authority on the subject. Which can be a bit unsettling when offering up horrendous advise as you did in this thread.
Test_Subject
New Member
How in the ever-loving shit is that "ad hominem"? I attacked your argument directly... Calling you a name for your inability to read doesn't count as "at the person."
Such as?
AIRBORNE DADDY
Member
I would think a first timer would want to know how his body aromatizes first....and chest, u been in the game a while, thought I read u compete...
ChestRockwell
Member
Precisely, the first blasts are a huge learning curve, and a great way for an individual to become familiar with how their body responds to exogenous hormones.
So creating these proactive AI protocols just really prevents a lot of this ability to learn oneself.
It is also why folks should keep things very simple as it relates to compounds, doses/changes, etc - so they can properly assess what things are doing and be able to accurately troubleshoot should sides develop. Having too many variables changing at once (particularly in the inexperienced) is a recipe for disaster (e.g. if something unexpected happens, how will they know what is causing it?)...
Riprock713
Member
300 mg/week of tren? Tren is 5x testosterone so it's equivalent to 1.5 gs test which I would consider a blast
Kel995
Member
I pin .8cc E3D and only need 6.25 E3D.
I started this on week 3.
It's different for everyone. It could be different for you on your next run, it's something that you need to feel out. Know what the sides of E being too high, and know what's too low.
If your joints are aching bad, you may have taken too much. At 500mg a week, you should start feeling like an animal by week 4. Get carried away with the Asin, as it's a suicidal AI, you can crash and it can be 3-7 days to go into beast mode again. That's a wasted week, and on a 12 week cycle that's a lot of time.
Stay away from anything that alters your body, like Rec drugs and alcohol, makes it much easier to pay attention t what's going on.
Kel995
Member
A lot of people start eating a lot more food when they jump on.
If your eating a lot of stuff which contains a lot of salt, cholesterol, or garbage microwaved food, then yes, be prepared to look bloated.
A good rule, is if it's frozen, you don't need to eat it.
Savagesteve
Member
Since when was tapering off cycle and not running pct a good idea? 12 weeks of 500mg test e ew will shut down natty production. Pct will be needed in order to get the body producing test again. No pct will be good if you want to lose what gains you made over the 12 weeks on cycle.
ChestRockwell
Member
Since when is coming off a good idea? What is more rough on the endocrine system following a blast?
- Completely coming off and forcing body's endogenous processes to recover
- Simply "cruising" on either bodybuilder TRT or true TRT
Let me be very clear, I do NOT support this cycle baloney. If someone decides the time is right to use exogenous AAS, then this should be a life-long commitment barring health complications.
And NO NO NO, PCT isn't required to get endogenous production occurring again, who told you this? I've come off cold turkey many times in the past (circumstances dictated) and I didn't "lose my gains" either (note that I'm well beyond natural limits too). The key is ensuring you maintain the lifestyle and don't let everything go down the toilet simply because you come off AAS. There will come a point where atrophy happens, but this is going to be months - even for those with significantly more mass than natural genetic limits (and by that time most will be back on AAS).
Many of my competitors (particularly in EU) come off after shows as well. This is very common over there. But yeah, I'm not sure where you are getting your info but it is quite a bit off the mark IMO.
Savagesteve
Member
How is blasting and cruising healthier than cycling on and off? Yes your body will restart its natural production but it won't be as fast of a recovery as if you pct.
ChestRockwell
Member
Serious question, do you even read my posts? Please quote me where I said anything about one method or the other being healthier than the other.
Show me your sources for this claim. And I want actual controlled trials, not some "internet guru" article please...
ChestRockwell
Member
There are just so many compelling reasons against lowering estrogen that I find it to be terrible advice to proactively use an AI.
GeorgeForemanRules
Banned
Post some photos so we can see if you are ready to use steroids.
GeorgeForemanRules
Banned
GeorgeForemanRules
Banned
As expected, just bro logic and no facts.
As for your silly bro logic, no one agrees with you snow flake.
