First cycle dbol test

[iwantaghibli]

Hello. Never really post but I'll be posting my first cycle here.

Test e- 500mg, pin twice a week. 1-12 or 1-10 depending on how I am feeling.
Dbol 30-50mg ed for 4 weeks
Aromasin- 12.5 eod
Hcg- 1-12 500iu, pin twice a week

Two weeks after last pin
Pct-
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid- 50/25/25/25

European has pharma grade but a bit pricey
Reliable has good prices
So still debating which ones I should make sure are pharmacy grade and which ones I can take risk with reliable.

Either way critique my cycle please. Looking for all the help I can get.


Been training for 7 years naturally.
190lbs
12% body fat-
Don't squat or deadlift due to mild sculiousis
Supplement lifts with dumb bell squats leg press etc.


Work has been making life pretty boring same routine. So want to spice up life. Always wanna try new things and different lifestyles.

Goal is to get more of a v shape look. want to make back wider though as well and put more meat on my chest in the process. So probably bulk and go from there.

Lastly: taken sarms before. Lgd and s4 strength went up. Did not use any pct as it was completely new at the time. Lost all gained from it. Kept the strength though!! Can someone explain that. Didn't like the sarms though wasn't as much of a wow factor that I was looking for. qhats dbol and test e compared to this?

Thank you guys!

 

[iwantaghibli]

I'm 26

 

[samsc744]

Very similar to my 2nd cycle except I ran hcg before pct also. Make sure to run blood work before during and after and eat eat then eat some more. Good luck.

 

[iwantaghibli]

Very similar to my 2nd cycle except I ran hcg before pct also. Make sure to run blood work before during and after and eat eat then eat some more. Good luck.

Oh yes I'll be running hcg up to pct.
thank you.

 

[iwantaghibli]

Want a few g2gs before I start.

 

[Genghis K.]

SARMS suppress natural testosterone production. Test and DBol will blow your doors off. Start with 30 mgs of DBol as the back pumps can be bad and monitor your estrogen levels.

 

[iwantaghibli]

SARMS suppress natural testosterone production. Test and DBol will blow your doors off. Start with 30 mgs of DBol as the back pumps can be bad and monitor your estrogen levels.

When monitoring estrogen levels should I be just looking for itchy nips and excessive bloat?

 

[Genghis K.]

You'll likely retain water (the bloat) with DBol. Itchy nips is just one symptom that can effect a user. Do some research on symptoms so you can be ahead of the game. The straight forward answer to your question is: obtain bloodwork.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Goal is to get more of a v shape look.

Weighted chin ups and deadlifts

 

[BigNick002]

Does 12.5 aromasin EOD seem high to anyone else?

 

[Sk8man101]

Dbol is dangorous when it comes to gyno. Good luck op.
If all goes well you'll have some explaining to due with your friends and family.
Don't forget to save a little extra money for all the new clothes you'll have to buy.

 

[oldmusclemike]

When monitoring estrogen levels should I be just looking for itchy nips and excessive bloat?

Have you done no research? there are many unwanted side effect from high or low Estrogen. SO you don't control your estrogen just for Gyno purposes.

Use BW to monitor estrogen along with the sides if you know your body and how it reacts to AAS. First cycle you have no clue and the Dbol will cause aromatizing very quickly before you can understand what's up.

You do not need Dbol and the confusion and jeopardy of the sides it will cause on your first cycle. 26 years old and 500mgs Test will do as much as you want or need. The key will be diet and training.


Low Estrogen Side Effects:
-Anxiety
-Loss of appetite
- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

High Estrogen Side Effects:
- Gynecomastia
- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues
Emotional wreck

Leave the Dbol for another cycle. AND do some research.

 

[iwantaghibli]

Have you done no research? there are many unwanted side effect from high or low Estrogen. SO you don't control your estrogen just for Gyno purposes.



Low Estrogen Side Effects:
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Leave the Dbol for another cycle. AND do some research.

I'm doing more research. Okay so I got dbol and test already. i have a few questions for you. I'm thinking about doing test only now. But won't aromasin, nolvadex and blood work let me control estrogen levels when using dbol. Also how was your dbol experience? How was the aesthetic of it? I'm not looking for strength but need to get some parts more meaty and bigger. I'm looking good now, but want to look better will dbol ruin this? And cuts in the right areas ect. Basically is dbol something that should even be in the realm of consideration. Or should I be looking for a different compound

 

[oldmusclemike]

Simple Simon says just that keep it simple and you aren't listening. Your body is young and virgin to exogenous Test, so test only will go a very long way. If you understand aromatization and the profiles of the steroids that aromatize abundantly you would know that adding Dbol on your first cycle is only gonna cause complications very quickly before you will know how to handle. AND for what...? to gain water retention. Why have to use more AI then you need with Test only.

Get this Nolva is NOT an AI. It seem you think for some reason you need Dbol but you do not on your 1st or 2nd cycle. Save it for down the road. You're only gonna fill up with water and only to loose it.

Read up more to verify what I say and learn the profiles. Remember this keep it simple,

 

[iwantaghibli]

Simple Simon says just that keep it simple and you aren't listening. Your body is young and virgin to exogenous Test, so test only will go a very long way. If you understand aromatization and the profiles of the steroids that aromatize abundantly you would know that adding Dbol on your first cycle is only gonna cause complications very quickly before you will know how to handle. AND for what...? to gain water retention. Why have to use more AI then you need with Test only.

Get this Nolva is NOT an AI. It seem you think for some reason you need Dbol but you do not on your 1st or 2nd cycle. Save it for down the road. You're only gonna fill up with water and only to loose it.

Read up more to verify what I say and learn the profiles. Remember this keep it simple,

Alright gonna keep it at a test only cycle. Gonna save the dbol for another time or possibly throw it away if this route is better.

 

[Sk8man101]

Yeah op.
Oldmuscle has some solid points.
My first cycle was test and dbol and I blew up with water. Estrogen was outa control. Needed letro to get it handled.

 

[doctor jones]

Sounds like a good cycle, just make sure AI is on deck for sure

 

[Howler92]

I'm fairly new to the scene, lifted natural for 10 years. First cycle was test e at 500mg a week pinned every 3.5 days, hcg 250iu twice a week. Had adex and nolva on hand in case of e2 sides. Ran for 12 weeks put on about 20lbs of which I kept about 15lbs. Diet was good (couldn't eat enough it seemed). Overall 1st time I was crazy impressed with just test cycle. 2nd was the same except 600mg weekly. Hope that helps op

 

[Genghis K.]

Thread is over 2 years old........ where were you when he needed you? He got gyno, had to have surgery. No he can't even walk by a gym without crying. @Howler92, you totally let him down bro........