Tren Ace Cloudy and Filtering

[BOTSLAYER]

Experience: 1st time brewer made about 80 total vials over 3 days of TE, TP, EQ, NPP, Mast P all no issues. Everything is beautiful and clear. Used GSO, BA and BB.

2 issues: Cloudy tren when not hot and clogging .2u Bottle Top Filters

I tried 3 batches of tren (salvaged very little) and 1 of Zyzz (went ok).

Filtering Problems

Starting with the filtering. I would heat the tren to filter it and after a few drops (maybe 10mL) it just stops. Reheating the batch didn't seem to do much and might have caused tears in the filter. (This might have also been the batch with 20% BB.)

Either way heating did not help much if at all. Eventually the media bottle would break from over pumping.

For the filtering issue I was thinking coffee filters first to get any bigger junk out...or even a .45 filter and filtering twice.


Cloudy Tren/Zyzzbolone

Brewing Tren Ace @ 100mg/mL...probably slightly over dosed to 105-110ish.

Using 2% BA and 15% BB the Tren dissolves perfectly with out heat.

I add oil and it goes cloudy. I can heat it to get it to go clear.

I heat it a bit to filter it and it is clear. I bottle it clear and it goes cloudy quickly. Eventually some sediment on the bottom of the vial. I can reheat it and it goes clear no problem, but crashes as soon as it is cool.

Pinning the Zyzz has been almost PIP free.

 

[Anabolicbrah]

same problem as you. I keep getting clumps.

 

[Sk8man101]

Sounds like it's just not holding, was it LMC raws?

 

[penche]

Coffee filters should help remove the clumps, shouldn't be needed unless you're messin with pellets tho. Never had any issues like that with raw Tren. Maybe the raws are poor. Where are they from? Can you openly say?

 

[BOTSLAYER]

PPL Raws.

The coffee filters fixed the filtering issue but all trens and blends are cloudy a bit after brewing.

 

[XKawN]

If it's water related you can put it in a beaker in the oven at about 300f for about 30 minutes and it should evaporate the water. Should fix your problem.

 

[Big dog]

Experience: 1st time brewer made about 80 total vials over 3 days of TE, TP, EQ, NPP, Mast P all no issues. Everything is beautiful and clear. Used GSO, BA and BB.

2 issues: Cloudy tren when not hot and clogging .2u Bottle Top Filters

I tried 3 batches of tren (salvaged very little) and 1 of Zyzz (went ok).

Filtering Problems

Starting with the filtering. I would heat the tren to filter it and after a few drops (maybe 10mL) it just stops. Reheating the batch didn't seem to do much and might have caused tears in the filter. (This might have also been the batch with 20% BB.)

Either way heating did not help much if at all. Eventually the media bottle would break from over pumping.

For the filtering issue I was thinking coffee filters first to get any bigger junk out...or even a .45 filter and filtering twice.


Cloudy Tren/Zyzzbolone

Brewing Tren Ace @ 100mg/mL...probably slightly over dosed to 105-110ish.

Using 2% BA and 15% BB the Tren dissolves perfectly with out heat.

I add oil and it goes cloudy. I can heat it to get it to go clear.

I heat it a bit to filter it and it is clear. I bottle it clear and it goes cloudy quickly. Eventually some sediment on the bottom of the vial. I can reheat it and it goes clear no problem, but crashes as soon as it is cool.

Pinning the Zyzz has been almost PIP free.

Add more bob and more GSO

 

[spirit]

I think i had same issue with my tren, got it from LMC, no pain or effect difference but got that cloud on the bottom.Put more heat into the process but it became dark rusty compound

 

[Witchdoctor]

Any cloudy solution is caused from moisture. You will need to figure out where the moisture is coming from, some powders from China come very moist to add weight. You will need to heat at a low temp in order for the moisture to evaporate....

 

[TRT]

How low? I've bumped into this same problem before. 120°?
Just thought of something. I have a dehydrator. I can use that can't i?

 

[mjf]

Wondering how this worked out for you. I had this happen over the weekend. I tried 3 batches. First two went all clumpy like that. After alotnof work and low heat, I was able to get rid of the clumps in one. The second was so bad I thought I had ruined my glassware too because it was all stuck to the bottom and sides.

My third batch turned out the best, but it's still cloudy.

I tried the oven suggestion in case it was water in there. It still clouded back up. Filtered with coffee filter then some .45 syringe filters I had. Then I went ahead and filtered with .22. It looked good eventually but clouded up again.

Since I still had the first batch, I put it back in the oven 3 times and it still clouded back up every time.

 

[TRT]

Are you guys dosing this at 100mg/ml?

 

[mjf]

I did my calculation for 110mg. I use 1%ba and try to use 10%bb, but went up to 15% when things went wrong.

My powder, ba, and bb have been sealed and stored in a cool dark place for about a year. First 2 batches were safflower oil and they were the worst ones, third was a brand new bottle of gso.

Never had a problem like this before, even the first batch of tren I made with everything. It went flawlessly.

 

[XKawN]

I did my calculation for 110mg. I use 1%ba and try to use 10%bb, but went up to 15% when things went wrong.

My powder, ba, and bb have been sealed and stored in a cool dark place for about a year. First 2 batches were safflower oil and they were the worst ones, third was a brand new bottle of gso.

Never had a problem like this before, even the first batch of tren I made with everything. It went flawlessly.

15% BB is a little low for tren ace. Trying adding more bb and see if that helps.

 

[mjf]

15% BB is a little low for tren ace. Trying adding more bb and see if that helps.

Actually I used your numbers on the third batch. I think that was 18%. I forgot about that.

 

[bonacris]

I did my calculation for 110mg. I use 1%ba and try to use 10%bb, but went up to 15% when things went wrong.

My powder, ba, and bb have been sealed and stored in a cool dark place for about a year. First 2 batches were safflower oil and they were the worst ones, third was a brand new bottle of gso.

Never had a problem like this before, even the first batch of tren I made with everything. It went flawlessly.

I'm having the same issue. 20% bb 2%ba and its still cloudy. Never had this issue before. I got my raws from a different source this time than usual and they were much much darker

 

[spirit]

I will try to add guaiacol next time , i can fix this cloudy issue by simply heating ba , powder and bb at 100C for 5 minutes ,then the gear is dark amber like rust and never crashes but the color is far darker than my older tren used to be .Btw, i tried mixing this cloudy batch of tren powder with TNE , and at 50:50 mg/ml its perfectly smooth with 18% BB ,strange...

 

[Big dog]

I think i had same issue with my tren, got it from LMC, no pain or effect difference but got that cloud on the bottom.Put more heat into the process but it became dark rusty compound View attachment 60186

The heat is a temporary fix. Ass more B.B. And oil it's may be overdosed

 

[mjf]

If you assume your powder is a little wet and want to dry it out in the oven, given that tren ace melts at around 200deg and you don't want to melt it, how long and at what temp would you bake it to dry out the powder. I'll assume around 160-170 deg, but is that hot enough to dry it out and how long?

 

[Cajun897]

Seems like alot of people are having cloudy gear what is your brewing process?