Tren Ace Cloudy and Filtering

[PuddlePiratePunk]

Nice work!

 

[redbull3906]

Strange multiple people are having the same issue. Talk to your source, maybe a bad batch. There are only a few big pharma plants in china that make hormone powder so you have to assume all resellers are getting their product from a small list of manufacturers. Just because the reseller is different doesn't meant the manufacturer is. With that said, after looking at SPIRITS pic that almost looks like the hormone itself that's not fully dissolved floating around instead of moisture. Moisture would make the whole bottle cloudy, not just part of it. I would try a small batch not going over 100mg and go 1% or 2%ba and a full 20% bb.

 

[Cajun897]

Quit buying cheap raws lol

 

[Holistic]

Anyone else with cloudy tren use PPL. All the other raws turned out perfect. Then tren is cloudy then next day. The raws were very loose yellow powder almost fluffy.

 

[redbull3906]

No. the only time I've ever had a cloudy solution after it cooled was when I got moisture in it from a hot water bath before filtering. If it looks swirly it might be something other than moisture. If the entire solution is cloudy and doesn't change when shaken i would say moisture. Is it tren a or e?

 

[Holistic]

Experience: 1st time brewer made about 80 total vials over 3 days of TE, TP, EQ, NPP, Mast P all no issues. Everything is beautiful and clear. Used GSO, BA and BB.

2 issues: Cloudy tren when not hot and clogging .2u Bottle Top Filters

I tried 3 batches of tren (salvaged very little) and 1 of Zyzz (went ok).

Filtering Problems

Starting with the filtering. I would heat the tren to filter it and after a few drops (maybe 10mL) it just stops. Reheating the batch didn't seem to do much and might have caused tears in the filter. (This might have also been the batch with 20% BB.)

Either way heating did not help much if at all. Eventually the media bottle would break from over pumping.

For the filtering issue I was thinking coffee filters first to get any bigger junk out...or even a .45 filter and filtering twice.


Cloudy Tren/Zyzzbolone

Brewing Tren Ace @ 100mg/mL...probably slightly over dosed to 105-110ish.

Using 2% BA and 15% BB the Tren dissolves perfectly with out heat.

I add oil and it goes cloudy. I can heat it to get it to go clear.

I heat it a bit to filter it and it is clear. I bottle it clear and it goes cloudy quickly. Eventually some sediment on the bottom of the vial. I can reheat it and it goes clear no problem, but crashes as soon as it is cool.

Pinning the Zyzz has been almost PIP free.

I used a .70 prefilter in the bottle top. To keep the .22 from clogging. It worked well. The tren ace I tried to brew at 1% ba 15% bb and it was cloudy so I added 3% more bb and heated it and its holding at 18% bb and 1% ba. Using gso... If you didn't have water or steam around it then add bb and it will be fine.

 

[Big dog]

If you assume your powder is a little wet and want to dry it out in the oven, given that tren ace melts at around 200deg and you don't want to melt it, how long and at what temp would you bake it to dry out the powder. I'll assume around 160-170 deg, but is that hot enough to dry it out and how long?

Got it thks

 

[Cory Gabe]

Not sure how much this thread is worth of revival, I just wanted to chip in because I have had the same issue with the Tren A I brewed just yesterday. 2% BA 20%BB on hot plate. Powder dissolved without issues and filtering was as usual. A little bit after cooling the oil looked foggy. No crystals, swirling, particles or deposits.

I had other compounds I bought around the same time and they all brewed to a very clear solution, the issue is only with Tren A. I suppose we all got the same batch from the same factory.

 

[ickyrica]

I bought 10g and brewed at 1/18 ratio.

Got it ready for filtering, let it cool to verify it will hold, filtered with .2 bottle top.

All vials have held fine.

I had to refilter Deca one time but that was because it was hotter than the filters specified. From that point on I have been letting the oil cool and show that it is holding before I use a filter.

 

[Holistic]

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Not sure how much this thread is worth of revival, I just wanted to chip in because I have had the same issue with the Tren A I brewed just yesterday. 2% BA 20%BB on hot plate. Powder dissolved without issues and filtering was as usual. A little bit after cooling the oil looked foggy. No crystals, swirling, particles or deposits.

I had other compounds I bought around the same time and they all brewed to a very clear solution, the issue is only with Tren A. I suppose we all got the same batch from the same factory.

Added extra bb 3% and it held...

 

[redbull3906]

Not sure how much this thread is worth of revival, I just wanted to chip in because I have had the same issue with the Tren A I brewed just yesterday. 2% BA 20%BB on hot plate. Powder dissolved without issues and filtering was as usual. A little bit after cooling the oil looked foggy. No crystals, swirling, particles or deposits.

I had other compounds I bought around the same time and they all brewed to a very clear solution, the issue is only with Tren A. I suppose we all got the same batch from the same factory.

Sounds like moisture. Shouldn't hurt anything if you use it soon. I would refilter just to see if it goes away.

 

[Big dog]

Not sure how much this thread is worth of revival, I just wanted to chip in because I have had the same issue with the Tren A I brewed just yesterday. 2% BA 20%BB on hot plate. Powder dissolved without issues and filtering was as usual. A little bit after cooling the oil looked foggy. No crystals, swirling, particles or deposits.

I had other compounds I bought around the same time and they all brewed to a very clear solution, the issue is only with Tren A. I suppose we all got the same batch from the same factory.

I fixed it by using docs advice. I added more BB and a little more oil and it cleared up. Foggyness never retunrned.

 

[Big dog]

We were able to rule out moisture. Most likely there is too much hormone in the mix as I generally assume Chinese Rae's are underdosed. Looks like this time they sent it right cause the tren is spot on.

 

[mghoward74]

Its not the Raws. Its the brewing techniques and procedures, that are causing cloudy gear.

 

[mjf]

I wanted to share another experience trying to brew my tren ace. There is another thread here that shows pics of dark, clumpy tren as well, but this is the first thread I happened upon. My tren raws are about 2 years old, kept in 2 ziploc bags, climate controlled, and inside a container that keeps light out.

I brewed first batch when raws were new with no problems. About a year later I encountered the clumped up raws. I've brewed quite a few batches of different things but I'm no expert by any means.

Yesterday I tried tren ace again. First batch I heated the oil and bb(15%bb) then slowly stirred in the powder while still on hot plate. Clumped up mess to where there was a giant blob on the end of my glass stir rod. Upped bb to 20%, no help. I then made another batch but used someone's idea of adding another compound(npp). Some people have said it might help it hold. Still nasty clumping.

Then a third batch. This time I did 18%bb from the start. I added the bb to the powder and stirred until dissolved, things looked promising as the powder completely dissolved. Then I added my 160 degree gso to the beaker and watched as it immediately fell out of suspension. More heat only caused it to burn the raws to the bottom of the beaker.

I think I'll try one more batch before tossing the raws, this time adding some npp that is made with eo and see what happens.

Fyi, as soon as I gave up on the tren, I brewed 100ml npp using all the same chemicals and it turned out flawless. So from that, I'm assuming no water or anything wrong with my gsi, bb, or ba.

 

[redbull3906]

Let it sit overnight. See if that helps

 

[mjf]

I brewed 10ml last night. Put powder in 18% ba until it dissolved. Added some already brewed npp that I had that I believe is made with eo(clear and very thin oil). It didn't crash so I added my gso and swirled, stirred. It held, little cloudy but it held so I covered it and let it sit. I don't plan to pin this, just an experiment. I'll filter it if it holds just to see if it was a success or not.

I didn't use any heat at all. Curious if it will clump up or clear up the cloudiness if I add some heat.

I don't like gear made with eo, but if this is the only way to get this older powder to hold, I can do some eo with gso. I'll have to experiment to see what percentage eo to gso will hold.