Having E2 slightly. Above the reference isn't necessarily a bad thing. It might be worth it to try goin without the adex and see how you feel and what your bloods tell you.
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Having E2 slightly. Above the reference isn't necessarily a bad thing. It might be worth it to try goin without the adex and see how you feel and what your bloods tell you.
35mg twice weekly. If I had to guess, my BF is around 20%. Also wouldn't the need for an ai be based on your TT levels and not how much you're injecting? For some reason I respond to the T really well. At 80mg my TT was over 1100.
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I think I'm crowding the limit where I am now, I do notice slightly excessive emotional levels. The getting misty aspect. Zero ankle bloat though.
And my BW had my E2 at 33.7 so perhaps not too high?
Considering that I've reduced my Test dose, if I drop the 0.25mg E3D dose of Adex, where do you think E2 will wind up?
In a way yes, but if you're injecting once a week vs twice a week, you'll have slightly lower peak levels with the twice a week which would affect the aromatization.
I go well above the limit on blast without using any adex bc I'm asymptomatic for the most part.
33.7 is not high at all.
Hard to tell where it'll end up but I don't think it'll be much higher than where you're at now.
I've found a linear relationship between T dose and ai dose. First you need to decide where you want your E2. For argument sake let's say 25. So you want to lower your E2. So divide 34/25=1.36. Now multiply 1.36 x current ai dose to get new dose. Then you need to reduce that new dose by your new T dose. So if you are reducing T from 150 to 120 you divide and get 0.8. Now multiply 0.8 times the new dose of ai from above and you'll find your ai dose that accounts for lower T dose and target E2. Phew
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I don't get any gyno indications at all, no acne, no other issues. Just some emotional issues and if getting eve higher, the left ankle bloat kicks in. No idea why it's just the left ankle?
Hell, I'll give it a try, see how it works out. Too low is really bad (osteo and joints), but too high is mostly just uncomfortable, right? Nothing truly negative - unless crazy high I guess.
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I think the general idea is that the fewer compounds you use to manipulate your endo system, the better off you are. Whether receptors are dulled/fatigued or whatever, I can't say, but as a process control engineer I can relate to less complexity usually being better.
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Basically you explained it. Always try to get by with the least amount of drugs necessary.
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Where do you get such tiny amounts? Liquid Adex? If so, isn't that false precision? I.e. how sure can you be about the potency? Then again, you sound like you have it extremely tightly dialled in.
I'll try what @Docd187123 suggested, if that's without sides, I'll do without. If I get too sentimental, it's back on the 0.25mg E3D train.
I make my own liquid. 5ml of vodka plus 5 one mg adex pills. I dispense with a 1cc syringe. Can draw up any increment. Then I squirt it into a small glass with an ounce of water and drink away.
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Clever - I didn't realize it dissolved like that
Dissolves perfectly in the vodka and the vodka helps preserve the solution
Would you mind sharing other factors the influence e2. I'm not trying to be a smart ass I'm asking a serious question
Age is one factor. Older guys tend to convert more T to E2. Genetics of course. Liver function plays a large roll in clearing E2.
I may have to try that it's tough to break adex into .25mg. That's what I use for blasts
Just popped in to say thanks for a great thread...nice discussion!
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Yeah, feels like a different board altogether - we're so damn civil.
I thought the thread had to be about @GearGodess tits, cool cars, big rigs, or exotic firearms to be this well-behaved.
LolYeah, feels like a different board altogether - we're so damn civil.
I thought the thread had to be about @GearGodess tits, cool cars, big rigs, or exotic firearms to be this well-behaved.
