getbig1974
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I have access to peptides and research Chems wondering if it's worth starting a research website selling domestically or is the market already to crowded? Thoughts ?
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Would you start a peptide/research Chem site if you could?
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Savagesteve
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Like any other rc or ugl the quality would be what made it worth it or not. Do you have access to hplc testing? Do you have the ability to mass produce a sterile product? There are so many more factors than "I have access to rc Chems and peptides".
master.on
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True
It depends on quality
If you could get TOP quality chemicals and PROVE their quality at a REASONABLE price you'd have a great portion of market share all for yourself
As an extreme example for high quality, you can begin searching RC chems and peptides in TOP notch companies, like
MK-677 SML0993
they give you Certificates Of Analysis you can trust are not faked
as (most) RCs and peps are not controlled substances
you can post the manufacturer's CoA
This particular example is too pricey to be competitive
but you can keep on looking
for example I bought a gram of clen from a top-notch company (perhaps even better than sigma-aldrich)
while much more expensive than chinese crap, you use such small amounts of it (micrograms per mL) that if it's cheap overall. I made some quick math and found that other costs like solvents, bottles exceed the active principle cost.
Again focus on quality, even if you start with only 5 different products
don't expect to make any money selling this
master.on
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First no controlled substances whatsoever.
Second you'll need a page long disclaimer
3 absolutely no talk of bodybuilding, steroids, no jacked shirtless dude pic in website
4 it's better if you sell chemicals not yet marketed as pharmaceuticals just experimental substances, but if #2 is well done, most seem to get away with selling some pharma raws
5 best if sold in liquid form. Raw powder is still ok. No pills or capsules as they suggest human use
6 limit shilling or use another name so it doesn't look like the company is advertising their products for human use
7 reject customers who come with questions about human use
master.on
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Without too much looking I found a more down to earth EXAMPLE
TCI Letrozole
1g $174
supposing it costs $200 with shipping
for a 30 mL 2.5mg/mL solution you'd need 75 mg
(actually you'd need slightly more than 75 mg depending on Certificate Of Analysis purity, supposing CoA says 98% purity you'd need 75/0.98 = 76.53 mg per 30 mL bottle
Now calculate costs
1 gram is 1000 mg which is enough for 13 bottles up to 76.92 mg each
$200 / 13 bottles = $15.38 per bottle not bad for such a TOP QUALITY product
supposing you spend $5 on Ethanol, Propylene Gylcol (buy a large bottle, like a liter or gallon) bottle and label
That's $20.38
If you sell it for $40 + shipping
that still leaves you about $20 profit per bottle, since you invested $20 to get another $20 in profits that's a 100% profit for your investment. What banks will give you 100% interest in a Certificate of Deposit? None
With such a top quality product, your customers will be enlightened
and you'd become a Research Chemicals legend
In your website you can display the manufacturers name, in this FICTIONAL EXAMPLE it's TCI and Email your potential customers the CoA
Do your homework and use only TOP quality chemicals
Nothing wrong with opening business with just 5 different products
Remember one bad product can ruin your reputation
Search result of letrozole | TCI America
TCI Letrozole
1g $174
supposing it costs $200 with shipping
for a 30 mL 2.5mg/mL solution you'd need 75 mg
(actually you'd need slightly more than 75 mg depending on Certificate Of Analysis purity, supposing CoA says 98% purity you'd need 75/0.98 = 76.53 mg per 30 mL bottle
Now calculate costs
1 gram is 1000 mg which is enough for 13 bottles up to 76.92 mg each
$200 / 13 bottles = $15.38 per bottle not bad for such a TOP QUALITY product
supposing you spend $5 on Ethanol, Propylene Gylcol (buy a large bottle, like a liter or gallon) bottle and label
That's $20.38
If you sell it for $40 + shipping
that still leaves you about $20 profit per bottle, since you invested $20 to get another $20 in profits that's a 100% profit for your investment. What banks will give you 100% interest in a Certificate of Deposit? None
With such a top quality product, your customers will be enlightened
and you'd become a Research Chemicals legend
In your website you can display the manufacturers name, in this FICTIONAL EXAMPLE it's TCI and Email your potential customers the CoA
Do your homework and use only TOP quality chemicals
Nothing wrong with opening business with just 5 different products
Remember one bad product can ruin your reputation
Search result of letrozole | TCI America
getbig1974
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Okay so this is what I can get for peptides which you can't get better IMO and they are real so that said what do you think of this list ?
NouVeux premixed peptides with water separate
China generic peptides (most common sold)
Bio-peptide company
Alley peptide pens
NouVeux premixed peptides with water separate
China generic peptides (most common sold)
Bio-peptide company
Alley peptide pens
getbig1974
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As you can see I can get any of those as far a research chems I can get those but I think it's almost better to carry the real deal less head aches maybe repackage them under a research capsules or research tabs honestly buying shit chems is a hassle go legit or don't bother my opinion. USA peptides and few other are carrying capsules now so if the all have it think safe to say they can't go after everyone for it.
getbig1974
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I was think of just pill grind the real deal and put them in caps you wouldn't have to worry about quality because it would be pharma but no COA obviously so that would be somewhat of a problem but if the quality was there I dont think you would have any question/ problems regarding quality.
MANWHORE
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PM me let's talk
And watch out what you post because there are a lot of jealous people around ...
Did someone say Shill?
Yes the Shills will bash your UGL so that the UGL they work for can prosper ..
Just be careful brother
And I am interested in what you have to offer..
Shoot me a PM let's talk.
Be very careful of the 3yr vets they took the express course so their knowledge is pretty much the cost of a pile of poopie from my doggies butt!!
Good luck brother
Stay safe
getbig1974
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Another quick question with a brand like bio-peptide that is legit will people pay more than that cheap china shit because label manufacture in a real facility ? Would you ? So basically a reseller of their product.
MANWHORE
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Who's bio peptide?
Let me search these guys
MANWHORE
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If the Chinese stuff works then why pay more?
What are you looking to do again my friend?
weighted chinup
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Quality isn't even the biggest factor here since most of the 'USA made' peptides are coming from one of few places.
I don't think it's worth it with some exceptions because this industry probably has more to do with how good you are at marketing and being a good webmaster since all the USA made peptide suppliers are getting their chems from one of a few different places. From what I've seen the people who do this will have multiple online stores and again, it's because they either have a good webmaster or do it themselves and have the marketing down pat.
There are some exceptions, there have been successful stores who haven't done this and simply relied on an e-mail list or basic web page, but they were providing more specialized service that the average peptide vendor simply can't match. IIRC there was one who was pretty low-key but was pretty popular that eventually went private but he had other things like HCG on there which a lot of the major peptide vendors won't carry.
Don't get it twisted though, it's a grey-area and one I'm not sure will be alive and kicking in the forthcoming years. At least not on the same scale you see today.
I don't think it's worth it with some exceptions because this industry probably has more to do with how good you are at marketing and being a good webmaster since all the USA made peptide suppliers are getting their chems from one of a few different places. From what I've seen the people who do this will have multiple online stores and again, it's because they either have a good webmaster or do it themselves and have the marketing down pat.
There are some exceptions, there have been successful stores who haven't done this and simply relied on an e-mail list or basic web page, but they were providing more specialized service that the average peptide vendor simply can't match. IIRC there was one who was pretty low-key but was pretty popular that eventually went private but he had other things like HCG on there which a lot of the major peptide vendors won't carry.
Don't get it twisted though, it's a grey-area and one I'm not sure will be alive and kicking in the forthcoming years. At least not on the same scale you see today.
getbig1974
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Biopeptide Click link Biopeptide only problem it pharma grade so can I pass it as research peptides ? I'm looking for a legit part time job that's it no empire here. I know the Chinese stuff is good but I think a lot of people complain about them but how you gonna complain about legit peptide company in Europe right ? Me personally dont believe that that most of the claimed "USA " made peptides are not. I would challenge those claims with them release the labs who make them for them directly. So that's why I don't believe most those guys getting a clear plain vial with no markings or packaging is a red flag to me. There is no way to make it cheaper than china made products it's a fact. But I thought maybe a name brand peptide and research chems would appeal to the real deal to consumers. Any thoughts ?
getbig1974
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And you maybe be right marketing and websites maybe the biggest challenge and makes it more of a full time job so it's a toss up.
master.on
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All of them ONLY sell peptides with some abuse potential
thus they can't be taken seriously
NONE of them sells peptides for real SCIENTIFIC research
If you sell them as capsules or pills you're gonna get FDA knocking your door as caps/tabs suggest human use.
All RCs companies sell liquid or powder to avoid that
Read above for caps/tabs
No CoA = same shiity quality the market is already saturated
AgreePM me let's talk
And watch out what you post because there are a lot of jealous people around ...
Did someone say Shill?
Yes the Shills will bash your UGL so that the UGL they work for can prosper ..
Just be careful brother
And I am interested in what you have to offer..
Shoot me a PM let's talk.
Be very careful of the 3yr vets they took the express course so their knowledge is pretty much the cost of a pile of poopie from my doggies butt!!
Good luck brother
Stay safe
Be careful of shills trying to discourage you
All bio-peptide products have some abuse potential
this they can't be taken seriously
same crappy china quality
Read above
Cause they don't work really well
Look at UG steroid powders they are about 70% pure, and they are (relatively) easy to manufacture as its methods have been known for decades
Not so with peptides
Crap is cheap
For top chemical companies (say Sigma Aldrich) even if their products are made abroad, they inspect the process and restest, thus guaranteed
Not so with chinese crap
A top brand will definitely appeal if prices aren't excessive
Nope
the hard work is finding and sourcing TOP quality products at really affordable prices
more below
master.on
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Another FICTIONAL EXAMPLE
Sermorelin
100 mg $850
https://www.medchemexpress.com/Sermorelin.html
supposing $900 with shipping
that's $45 for 20 vials of 5 mg each
add a dollar for the vial and some other costs = $46
bodybuilding-grade (crappy quality) Sermorelin sells for about $45
supposing you don't get greedy and reduce your previous 100% profit margin to 50% as to reduce consumer prices because peptides are expensive
$46 * 150% = $69 (+shipping)
not bad for such a good quality product
As you can see the key is to do your homework searching for top quality yet affordable chemicals
you can add a sleek website and a nice marketing campaign if you want, but you got an amazingly good product at a still reasonable price.
Sermorelin
100 mg $850
https://www.medchemexpress.com/Sermorelin.html
supposing $900 with shipping
that's $45 for 20 vials of 5 mg each
add a dollar for the vial and some other costs = $46
bodybuilding-grade (crappy quality) Sermorelin sells for about $45
supposing you don't get greedy and reduce your previous 100% profit margin to 50% as to reduce consumer prices because peptides are expensive
$46 * 150% = $69 (+shipping)
not bad for such a good quality product
As you can see the key is to do your homework searching for top quality yet affordable chemicals
you can add a sleek website and a nice marketing campaign if you want, but you got an amazingly good product at a still reasonable price.
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