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I can find some studies and a lot of anecdotal evidence eventually.
This has worked very well for people running deca, especially.

Give me some time for the studies though.
 
Halotestin said:
Wanted to share something about HPTA recovery: you will benefit from donating blood the day before starting PCT. This will lower the concentration of anabolics and their metabolites, leading to faster recovery of HPTA.
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LOL! Yeah, this will lower the concentration of AAS still in-depot as well as the metabolites stored within fatty tissue such as nandrolone does.... :rolleyes:

Please, before claiming these sorts of things, have some evidence to back up your claim....
 
Wunderpus said:
LOL! Yeah, this will lower the concentration of AAS still in-depot as well as the metabolites stored within fatty tissue such as nandrolone does.... :rolleyes:

Please, before claiming these sorts of things, have some evidence to back up your claim....
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Metabolites are not "stored" anywhere. After nandrolone is metabolized by the 5 alpha reductase enzyme, it's transported outside the cytoplasm, and begins circulation in the bloodstream, through the hepatic portal vain, and after one circulation, it is either excreted renally, or it will renter the cell memebrane and bind weakly to the androgen receptor on the nucleus.
How does "stored" even make sense? With that logic a urine sample would never detect nandrolone metabolites, which is clearly incorrect. Oh, and source:
William's Llewellyn's Book "Anabolics."
 
Halotestin said:
Metabolites are not "stored" anywhere. After nandrolone is metabolized by the 5 alpha reductase enzyme, it's transported outside the cytoplasm, and begins circulation in the bloodstream, through the hepatic portal vain, and after one circulation, it is either excreted renally, or it will renter the cell memebrane and bind weakly to the androgen receptor on the nucleus.
How does "stored" even make sense? With that logic a urine sample would never detect nandrolone metabolites, which is clearly incorrect. Oh, and source:
William's Llewellyn's Book "Anabolics."
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Explain to me, then, why nandrolone has a 9 month detection time... If it is so quickly released?

"Deca-Durabolin is Nandrolone with the Deconoate ester attached allowing it to stay active for 21 days; however, its metabolites are present far longer in the body. 19-norandrosterone and 19-noreticholanolone appear to remain active for months after use, this may shed light on why its so hard to recover natural testosterone levels. Deca-Durabolin is also known to last in an athletes blood for over 12-16 months which makes it a very bad choice for athletes or bodybuilders in tested sports.Deca-Durabolin is Nandrolone with the Deconoate ester attached allowing it to stay active for 21 days; however, its metabolites are present far longer in the body. 19-norandrosterone and 19-noreticholanolone appear to remain active for months after use, this may shed light on why its so hard to recover natural testosterone levels. Deca-Durabolin is also known to last in an athletes blood for over 12-16 months which makes it a very bad choice for athletes or bodybuilders in tested sports." Testosterone Recovery After Deca-Durabolin - Steroidal.com

"Parenteral administration of the long‐chain esters of 19‐nortestosterone may be detected for months, with anecdotal evidence pointing to more than 18 months past the last injection" Significance of 19‐norandrosterone in athletes' urine samples

"How does "stored" even make sense?" Well, it is obviously "stored" somewhere over those 9-18 months, right?

Dr. Jim quotes a "multitude of studies" regarding it's storage in fat cells, I can see if I can dig some up, if necessary..
Dr JIM said:
Bc Deca Is released SLOWLY from fatty tissue (where it is "stored" over time) the attached ester doesn't seem to make much of a difference really.

Thus if you want to recover from Nandrolone the key is to use a "low dosage" like no more than 100mg/week, a short cycle length (less than 4 weeks) AND run Nandrolone first in the cycle.

Bc Nandrolone is WELL documented to linger for up to a YEAR in some users, I suggest those over the age of 30 and those concerned about their virility in the near future, avoid this AAS altogether.
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(Not in regard to what's going on above this post, this is just an update) Something I've really noticed since bumping the tren is that my dreams have become insanely real. Not frightening by any means but I'll go in and out of sleep around 6AM and not be sure whether or not what my mind is creating has actually happened or not. I thought my girl had told me she was pregnant so I called her in a shocked and half asleep state this morning and proceeded to embarrass the shit out of myself.

Just had 2 slices of rye with PB and 10oz of ground beef with a scoop of whey, hitting chest in an hour or so
 
Also, I'm adding 20 minutes low intensity cardio every morning in an attempt to increase appetite. I don't want to try and find a solution to the issue with more drugs, it seems silly. I'll let everyone know how it works out
 
thebrofessor said:
(Not in regard to what's going on above this post, this is just an update) Something I've really noticed since bumping the tren is that my dreams have become insanely real. Not frightening by any means but I'll go in and out of sleep around 6AM and not be sure whether or not what my mind is creating has actually happened or not. I thought my girl had told me she was pregnant so I called her in a shocked and half asleep state this morning and proceeded to embarrass the shit out of myself.

Just had 2 slices of rye with PB and 10oz of ground beef with a scoop of whey, hitting chest in an hour or so
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Totally normal... That happens to me too. Sometimes the dreams are so real, it's unpleasant at first to assess whether or not it actually happened!
 
Wunderpus said:
The weirdest ones for me are the intense sex dreams. The elevated libido and the vivid dreams + the night sweats get a little weird... Be ready!
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It's already shot my libido off the charts, not a bad thing.... yet. I'm here for the gains though, I'll take a couple weird boners along the way no problem in exchange for results :D
 
Ok so this should have been avoided and the fact that I have to ask this frustrates me a little because I should have just prepared for the situation but didn't. For reasons that don't really matter, I wasn't able to pin my tren on Tuesday or today because unforeseen circumstances required me to be gone from home where I left it. I will also be behind a day on sust but that doesn't really bother me. Is it a big deal that I missed two days of pinning? And should I pull a bigger shot tomorrow or just go back to 100mg/day? Would appreciate some input from veterans if either you guys have a sec... @wonderpus @mands
 
thebrofessor said:
Ok so this should have been avoided and the fact that I have to ask this frustrates me a little because I should have just prepared for the situation but didn't. For reasons that don't really matter, I wasn't able to pin my tren on Tuesday or today because unforeseen circumstances required me to be gone from home where I left it. I will also be behind a day on sust but that doesn't really bother me. Is it a big deal that I missed two days of pinning? And should I pull a bigger shot tomorrow or just go back to 100mg/day? Would appreciate some input from veterans if either you guys have a sec... @wonderpus @mands
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Just continue back with your normal dosing schedule. I'm guessing your tren is an acetate ester?

mands
 
thebrofessor said:
Alright cool, and yes it's ace. Do you think I'll notice a difference at all in the gym today? Just pinned a cc about half an hour ago
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No sir. You being out a couple of days from the gym I'm assuming. You will probably have a killer workout.

mands
 
@mands wasn't lying, my workout today was incredible. Definitely needed a couple days off whether or not it was on purpose lol. Hands are numb as hell when I wake up in the midddle of the night... I'll probably back off the growth a little and go back to 3iu every morning. Something I've noticed this week is my mind being different. Just an overall invincible super man walk through walls and fuck shit up feeling. I don't want to say "alpha as Phuck, brah" but that about sums it up lol. It's great to have in the gym for sure but I have to be careful to not let that get to me outside there lol. Not a hard thing to control honestly, I was more worried I would have temper issues from a dose of tren this high but as I've said already, I'm really responding well to the compound and not having sides even worth batting an eye at. No insomnia, very mild night sweats... just hot and sweating more than normal lol. I started seeing some good separation in my chest and delts. Nothing major yet but once it started, it's been better every day since.

Stay swole m8s
 
thebrofessor said:
@mands wasn't lying, my workout today was incredible. Definitely needed a couple days off whether or not it was on purpose lol. Hands are numb as hell when I wake up in the midddle of the night... I'll probably back off the growth a little and go back to 3iu every morning. Something I've noticed this week is my mind being different. Just an overall invincible super man walk through walls and fuck shit up feeling. I don't want to say "alpha as Phuck, brah" but that about sums it up lol. It's great to have in the gym for sure but I have to be careful to not let that get to me outside there lol. Not a hard thing to control honestly, I was more worried I would have temper issues from a dose of tren this high but as I've said already, I'm really responding well to the compound and not having sides even worth batting an eye at. No insomnia, very mild night sweats... just hot and sweating more than normal lol. I started seeing some good separation in my chest and delts. Nothing major yet but once it started, it's been better every day since.

Stay swole m8s
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Great to hear man!

mands
 
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