First cycle log

[Kaladin]

@Jaye j I'm torn on what to do next cycle. Part of me wants to run prop and tren a on a short cycle so I don't have to wait as long between cycles and the other part wants to run a 20 week test, eq, winny or var cycle... Any recommendations? I guess for me alot of this will play out with how quickly I recover from pct. And tren sides legit frighten me... Are they bad for you? I don't necessarily care about acne or any of that, I can purchase accutane. But, I don't want the personality sides I hear about... That could lead to some issues for me. Any input would be appreciated

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I'm moving away from longer cycles so i can get back on sooner and also not have jacked up cholesterol for such long periods.

 

[Kaladin]

That's what I think I'm going to end up leaning towards. I loved the feeling of being on cycle. I loved how I could watch my body change day in and day out and I really think after a few more (especially adding some stronger substances) I can attain my dream physique. How do you like tren @Perrin Aybara ? Any experience running prop with npp? I've heard it can be a nice short cycle

 

[Jaye j]

@Jaye j I'm torn on what to do next cycle. Part of me wants to run prop and tren a on a short cycle so I don't have to wait as long between cycles and the other part wants to run a 20 week test, eq, winny or var cycle... Any recommendations? I guess for me alot of this will play out with how quickly I recover from pct. And tren sides legit frighten me... Are they bad for you? I don't necessarily care about acne or any of that, I can purchase accutane. But, I don't want the personality sides I hear about... That could lead to some issues for me. Any input would be appreciated

My first run with tren I used a tri blend (tren e a h) twice a week. I had horrible issues with sleep.. Waking up many times every night.. And crazy nightmares.

But my second time around I'm using only ace eod.. And an even higher dose and I feel I don't really have sides. My sleep has been good, dreams ca be vivid but nothing insane.

I wanna say having stable levels helps with the sides. But i have nothing to back that up.

As far as personality sides.. I think that depends on the user...I'm pretty laid back and have a good grasp on my emotions.. There are times I get a little angry but I always manage to remind myself it's not me and collect myself. If you're short tempered i can definitely see how it can make things bad.

Now I'm no expert on tren.. And only tried it twice.. So I can only share my short lived knowledge. Masteron might a good alternative for your goals of the tren sides scare you

 

[Perrin Aybara]

That's what I think I'm going to end up leaning towards. I loved the feeling of being on cycle. I loved how I could watch my body change day in and day out and I really think after a few more (especially adding some stronger substances) I can attain my dream physique. How do you like tren @Perrin Aybara ? Any experience running prop with npp? I've heard it can be a nice short cycle

Never run NPP. Next cycle I am though.

I love tren. Running my second cycle of it right now at 100mg ED. I feel fantastic on it. Worst sides for me are sweating in my sleep, heartburn and being wildly emotional. Heartburn can be managed, i don't care about the sweating and being all emotional isn't that bad. Just gotta realize what's making you feel that way.

I'm going to try to keep most of my blasts 6-12 weeks now. Just running this tren for six. Last time the fatigue kicked in hard around week eight, so I'm getting out while i still feel great this time.

 

[Kaladin]

My first run with tren I used a tri blend (tren e a h) twice a week. I had horrible issues with sleep.. Waking up many times every night.. And crazy nightmares.

But my second time around I'm using only ace eod.. And an even higher dose and I feel I don't really have sides. My sleep has been good, dreams ca be vivid but nothing insane.

I wanna say having stable levels helps with the sides. But i have nothing to back that up.

As far as personality sides.. I think that depends on the user...I'm pretty laid back and have a good grasp on my emotions.. There are times I get a little angry but I always manage to remind myself it's not me and collect myself. If you're short tempered i can definitely see how it can make things bad.

Now I'm no expert on tren.. And only tried it twice.. So I can only share my short lived knowledge. Masteron might a good alternative for your goals of the tren sides scare you

Thanks for the info man! Definitely think ace is the way to go for myself if I choose that path. Masteron is another intriguing compound I've been considering. Guess this is the good part about being off. Plenty of time to research and plan what is the best route to take.

Never run NPP. Next cycle I am though.

I love tren. Running my second cycle of it right now at 100mg ED. I feel fantastic on it. Worst sides for me are sweating in my sleep, heartburn and being wildly emotional. Heartburn can be managed, i don't care about the sweating and being all emotional isn't that bad. Just gotta realize what's making you feel that way.

I'm going to try to keep most of my blasts 6-12 weeks now. Just running this tren for six. Last time the fatigue kicked in hard around week eight, so I'm getting out while i still feel great this time.

Thanks for the information like always bro. Seems to be common for exhaustion onset at that 8 week mark. Do you have a log going for this cycle? I'm interested in how the 6 weeks plays out. I think that would be a great time frame for a trial run for myself.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Thanks for the info man! Definitely think ace is the way to go for myself if I choose that path. Masteron is another intriguing compound I've been considering. Guess this is the good part about being off. Plenty of time to research and plan what is the best route to take.



Thanks for the information like always bro. Seems to be common for exhaustion onset at that 8 week mark. Do you have a log going for this cycle? I'm interested in how the 6 weeks plays out. I think that would be a great time frame for a trial run for myself.

Perrin Aybara's Journey to an Elite Powerlifting Total

You'd have to go back a few pages to get to the start of it. I've had that log going for quite some time now.

 

[Kaladin]

Update:

Didn't need the pt141 but will probably try it next weekend just for shits and gigs.

PCT-wise I was breaking out like a motherfucker. Today it started going down significantly so that is a huge relief. Otherwise it's going good. I still have really high aggression and am hitting 1.5-2hr sessions. Weight wise I'm down 3lbs but that hasn't changed in the last 3 days.

I will get pics posted when I have time to edit them. Life is insane right now

 

[Kaladin]

Sorry for delays guys. I wasn't expecting PCT to be this bad emotionally/mentally. It's been taxing, that's for sure.

Anyways, about 2.5 weeks into PCT. I am sitting at 194 lbs and about 7.5-8% body fat according to the same scale I've been using this whole time. Here are a couple of pictures. You can see I packed on alot of nice lean muscle and I am forever grateful for all of your guys help and insight. I plan on finishing off this PCT and then waiting the appropriate time frame and immediately starting another cycle when that time comes. Blood work will be done as well to make sure my body is ready, but my balls are fully recovered and bigger than before the cycle so I think I'm headed in the right direction.

Next cycle:
Either Pharmacom PharmaMix 2 at .75cc eod for 10 weeks +Anavar 50mg Ed for 4-10

Or

10 weeks
TPP 200 eod
NPP 150 eod
Anavar last 6 weeks


Edit: my reasoning for the different cycles is because I have read NPP can give very similar effects as tren, minus all the negative sides. But, I have also heard masteron with tren helps level you out. I'm going to do more research and decide but if anyone can give me some good advice I'd love to hear it! Thanks guys!

 

[Maktub]

Fucken crazy man ! Imagine when you add more substances to your future cycle.. looking great man . Congrats.
Did you had any acne issues ?

 

[Kaladin]

Fucken crazy man ! Imagine when you add more substances to your future cycle.. looking great man . Congrats.
Did you had any acne issues ?

Thanks brotha! I appreciate the kind words. I only had acne during PCT. It's finally almost all gone.

 

[WillyNilly402]

Dude, you are fucking jacked. Look at those traps! Man what I would do for a physique like that!

Sorry for delays guys. I wasn't expecting PCT to be this bad emotionally/mentally. It's been taxing, that's for sure.

Anyways, about 2.5 weeks into PCT. I am sitting at 194 lbs and about 7.5-8% body fat according to the same scale I've been using this whole time. Here are a couple of pictures. You can see I packed on alot of nice lean muscle and I am forever grateful for all of your guys help and insight. I plan on finishing off this PCT and then waiting the appropriate time frame and immediately starting another cycle when that time comes. Blood work will be done as well to make sure my body is ready, but my balls are fully recovered and bigger than before the cycle so I think I'm headed in the right direction.

Next cycle:
Either Pharmacom PharmaMix 2 at .75cc eod for 10 weeks +Anavar 50mg Ed for 4-10

Or

10 weeks
TPP 200 eod
NPP 150 eod
Anavar last 6 weeks


Edit: my reasoning for the different cycles is because I have read NPP can give very similar effects as tren, minus all the negative sides. But, I have also heard masteron with tren helps level you out. I'm going to do more research and decide but if anyone can give me some good advice I'd love to hear it! Thanks guys!
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[Kaladin]

Dude, you are fucking jacked. Look at those traps! Man what I would do for a physique like that!

Thanks brotha! I appreciate the kind words. Hope everything is still going well for you post cycle!

 

[Kaladin]

Well, figured I'd throw in one final update. This is about 3 weeks post PCT. I am going to get bloods done in two weekends. Sitting at 192lbs and much leaner than before the cycle started. My diet has been primarily high protein, high(er) fat, low carb. I had to tweak my diet around alot post cycle until I found something that worked, but finally did. If anyone would like more specifics, feel free to message me and I can give you a day by day breakdown of macros.

Anyways, below are a few photos taken this last week.... Cannot wait for cycle number two! Thanks again everyone who helped me out!

 

[CrazeeFrazee]

Well, figured I'd throw in one final update. This is about 3 weeks post PCT. I am going to get bloods done in two weekends. Sitting at 192lbs and much leaner than before the cycle started. My diet has been primarily high protein, high(er) fat, low carb. I had to tweak my diet around alot post cycle until I found something that worked, but finally did. If anyone would like more specifics, feel free to message me and I can give you a day by day breakdown of macros.

Anyways, below are a few photos taken this last week.... Cannot wait for cycle number two! Thanks again everyone who helped me out!

Hey man if you are going to be running shorts esters buy a few bottles of NPP too. You won't be disappointed. You can cycle it in if the tren sides get too bad. For me personally it adds more mass than tren but with a proper diet they'll be lean gains. Oh and not to mention joints feel lubed up as well. Good luck!!

 

[Kaladin]

Hey man if you are going to be running shorts esters buy a few bottles of NPP too. You won't be disappointed. You can cycle it in if the tren sides get too bad. For me personally it adds more mass than tren but with a proper diet they'll be lean gains. Oh and not to mention joints feel lubed up as well. Good luck!!

Awesome! Thanks for the advice man, I was debating NPP. I'll take your word for it thanks!