MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
My first cycle
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Then be happy with doing it for another few years before taking drugs that won't fix your training, motivation, and diet issues.
killer8blade
New Member
I would respect your opinion, unfortunately i have no training, diet or motivational issues... i am always happy to learn new things... but stop talking out of ur ass bro. cmon
If you think that 4 fucking years is not enough to get *far* beyond what you have achieved, then you also have mental issues to boot.
What you have done here is a 6-8 month novice progression. Nothing wrong with that, aside from the fact that you took 48 months to do it.
Your diet is shit, your training is manifestly shit, and likely this is all because your mind is weak.
killer8blade
New Member
let me see a pic of your progress please... before and after
Boy you are the one in here saying you "can manipulate your body". The burden of proof is on you. I have nothing to prove to you at all and owe you exactly nothing (you entitled twit), no one here does, the good advice they already gave you was because we are trying to keep you from being a fucking idiot..
Go to EVO or BB.com.
Your posts will be answered with a host of folks offering to help you with sources and everything.
hurricane
Member
Bro I'm not trying to dump on you. And yes you've made progress. No doubt. But your physique was nowhere near ready for AAS use. You really needed a better foundation. But you have lost significant fat. Unfortunately AAS use may put "bad" weight back on.
HIGHRISK
Member
Your "bucket loads of cash" are drops in my proverbial "buckets" so who gives a fuck? I also started my own business. I pay more in taxes then you gross every year .So does that make me better than you because I make more money? And I'm fat so what now??
What are u 12?
"Look what I got and you don't"
"My stuff is better than yours"
"My dad will beat up yours"
Get the fuck outta here you juvenile fuck stick. shut the fuck up with your elementary school yard look what I have attitude. Stop being a self entitled little pussy and go move some fucking iron around for a while then come back and see me. Git
What are u 12?
"Look what I got and you don't"
"My stuff is better than yours"
"My dad will beat up yours"
Get the fuck outta here you juvenile fuck stick. shut the fuck up with your elementary school yard look what I have attitude. Stop being a self entitled little pussy and go move some fucking iron around for a while then come back and see me. Git
RAre
Member
So are these trans woman, or just women with a strap on banging you out. Good for you but I like doing the banging but again you probably couldn't see your dick to do anything anyway.
This kid is the epitomy of entitlement. I've owned a business for the past 18 years+. You're not special. You are however fat and a prick. Go back to eroids
Leancuisine
New Member
LOL. I made money during high school too? Only 5-6 grand a month managing a business. Wasn't mine. I didn't build it, just ran it.
Probably nowhere near as much money as you, and I'm okay with that. I'm happy with where I am, being a barrel chested, square jawed, pussy slaying, freedom fighting American.
I don't need a slew of women. I have one. And she is greater than any slut you have following you around for your money. I don't need money for her to stick around. She makes a lot more money than I do. I don't give a shit. Money isn't a determining factor of how my quality of life is. I have a set amount of money I make each month, I earned that money, and receive it for the rest of my life. It allows me to free myself up and spend time raising my son.
So congratulations on your business, glad you made money. You still look like shit though.
Probably nowhere near as much money as you, and I'm okay with that. I'm happy with where I am, being a barrel chested, square jawed, pussy slaying, freedom fighting American.
I don't need a slew of women. I have one. And she is greater than any slut you have following you around for your money. I don't need money for her to stick around. She makes a lot more money than I do. I don't give a shit. Money isn't a determining factor of how my quality of life is. I have a set amount of money I make each month, I earned that money, and receive it for the rest of my life. It allows me to free myself up and spend time raising my son.
So congratulations on your business, glad you made money. You still look like shit though.
Leancuisine
New Member
Honestly I think the only thing you have holding you back is time. Whether that be the fact you don't have enough time, because you're running two businesses, or you haven't spent enough time dieting and training.
I started seriously lifting when I was 19. Before then I just ran track. Some people react faster, some people it takes a bit more work. I don't really care what you do. It is your body.
I love testosterone, so I've decided I'm no longer going to tell people not to do it. It's not my place to tell you what you should and should not do.
Honestly what it comes down to is this:
Spend another year dieting and training and achieve your ideal physique, or take a cycle and get there faster.
The only thing I do recommend is getting blood tests done before, to establish baselines of your hormones. Then a test during to make sure it isn't destroying your organs, then a test after PCT to make sure you are recovered.
killer8blade
New Member
Thanks... that is decent advice... Do you know what the test i need is called?
Leancuisine
New Member
Blood test. Hormone panel. I get them done through my local clinic but everyone else here seems to order them online and go to a special clinic. There's a thread for bloodwork right up at the top of the asteroids forums page
luex
Member
Hi,
I am a 29 year old male. I have been lifting consistently for 4 years now. I started at 100kg and bulked up to 115kg before cutting down to 87kg naturally.
My currant stats are: 6ft, 90kg, 17%body fat.
I train 6x per week. My goal WAS cut and achieve abs while looking as good as possible.
I am now day 13 into my first cycle. I am doing 2 injections of test e 2x per week. 250mg per injection. I am also taking 100mg anavar every day for 8 weeks. I will then stop the anavar, but continue with test e for a further 8 weeks. So that is a total of 8 weeks of anavar (6 weeks remaining, and 16 weeks of test e) I have clomid and tamoxifen for PCT which i will start to take 2 weeks after my final test e injection.
I originally wanted to cut but after posting on some forums everyone told me to drop the anavar, and just use the test e to bulk and not waste my first cycle on a cut.
So i have decided to take that advice apart from dropping the anavar. I am going to keep taking the anavar but have decided to bulk. My bulking numbers are: 210g protein, 385g carbs, 85g fat - 3145 calories per day. ( i beleive my tdee is ~2700)
my question is will i still make good gains. Would anyone change anything? I know anavar is typically used for cutting, but even taking it while on a bulk it will improve my gains right even if it is just by a little bit? it wont stop me from making gains right?
Any input, opinions/advice would be great!
Thanks
What does your training routine look like??
Weather you're trying to bulk up or cut depends much more on your diet rather than which type of steroid you're taking..Eating in a calorie surplus= Weight gain..Calorie deficit= weight loss/ "cutting." My advice would be just taking the test-e since this is your very first cycle..if you're set on the anvar, I would recommend back loading it towards the end of your cycle..or even mid-cycle..say week 5...100mg is way too much in my opinion..you could definitely get by just fine on 50mg/a day.
As for PCT...Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50....2 weeks after your last test-e pin.
HCG???
Blood work????
Seriously start doing more research. The whole web is there at your disposal to find all of this out...start looking up the drugs you're taking and why they were created/what the purpose was.
Leancuisine
New Member
I would do 3 weeks after last pin.
Good call on the anavar. 40mg was wicked for me. 50 should be awesome.
Rigger622
Member
After reading this post I decided to poke around in your threads to see what you meant about not wanting ppl to end up like you. You have some good info out there and it's appreciated. I joined Meso in July because I was ready to get on the juice. After reading many posts and learning from others I am on hold, so much I thought I knew about AAS and didnt. I turn 40 next year and like you want to be around many years yet for my family. From a fellow gamer I wish you the best of health and again appreciate the great info you post along with many others. Nice to see veterans looking after the younger generation when it comes to AAS, even though the majority of them think they know better.
TheH0517
Member
They can teach him how to manipulate his body a little better...
luex
Member
@killer8blade just remember you are the one asking for advice man..if people tell you you're fat or give you harsh criticism who cares..? Take it with great assault..I personally enjoy when people give me harsh criticism..I want the truth not some bullshit that is made up just to not hurt your feelings. You're on the right track by looking at your photos, but you should do more research not just on steroids but lifting/dieting in general. You could have the best steroids in the world, but if your diet is off and your training routine is bad your results will be seriously limited. Just research the basics.
hurricane
Member
Very kind words. Much appreciated. Stay safe bro.
