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TRT + Winstrol = PCT?

FiEnD

FiEnD

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Hey guys how would you recommend running an oral Winstrol with TRT? 6 weeks and then a PCT? I'd imagine a liver support should be enough and if so when would I start and for how long since it won't be a typical "cycle" and the winny has short half life so i imagine I won't have to wait 6 weeks right?
 
FiEnD said:
Hey guys how would you recommend running an oral Winstrol with TRT? 6 weeks and then a PCT? I'd imagine a liver support should be enough and if so when would I start and for how long since it won't be a typical "cycle" and the winny has short half life so i imagine I won't have to wait 6 weeks right?
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Trt or low test dosages?

If you on trt why would you pct?
 
FiEnD said:
1. Yeah legit TRT
2. Idk that's what I'm asking. Is there anything necessary for post Winstrol besides a standard liver support and how soon can I start it?
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After the Winstrol run, you'd just continue on with TRT. As for liver support, water is about the best thing you can consume.

Some say take milk thistle, blah, blah, blah, but i'm not convinced (as of yet) that it actually does anything.

For those of you that do prescribe to the liver support supplements, it would be great to see some (human based) studies that can support the claim of liver protection. If you know of any, please link them.
 
FiEnD said:
1. Yeah legit TRT
2. Idk that's what I'm asking. Is there anything necessary for post Winstrol besides a standard liver support and how soon can I start it?
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If you are on trt indefinitely you may just want to run hcg once in a while to keep them alive. 250ius once a week will do the job. No worries if you miss a week here and there. In case of emergency you can always push the nitrous button with 1000ius
 
FiEnD said:
Hey guys how would you recommend running an oral Winstrol with TRT? 6 weeks and then a PCT? I'd imagine a liver support should be enough and if so when would I start and for how long since it won't be a typical "cycle" and the winny has short half life so i imagine I won't have to wait 6 weeks right?
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Injectable Winny preferably. Along with 200mg tren/week ,300mg mast/week and 100mg test/week and DUDE, you going to get SHREDDED BEYOND COMPREHENSION
 
FiEnD said:
Hey guys how would you recommend running an oral Winstrol with TRT? 6 weeks and then a PCT? I'd imagine a liver support should be enough and if so when would I start and for how long since it won't be a typical "cycle" and the winny has short half life so i imagine I won't have to wait 6 weeks right?
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From the wording, I feel like you are saying you’re going to run a “trt dosage,” 100-200mg of Test per week with oral Winn’s... correct me if I’m wrong.

If this is the case, then you’d run it and then run PCT (timing) based on the ester of the injectable Test you’re running.

If you are on TRT all the time and you want to add a 6 week Winstrol and TRT cycle in, then no PCT is needed.

In either case, it’s a pretty weird cycle setup at 6 weeks anyway and you’d come away with little imo, in terms of change in body comp.

Like @MisterSuperGod said, all liver support is bullshit. There is no justifiable evidence that you can take something to “protect your liver” while taking a compound that effects it. Just don’t waste your money, short enough cycles (4-6 weeks on an oral) and your liver will be fine, if you are healthy in general
 
Marcus said:
From the wording, I feel like you are saying you’re going to run a “trt dosage,” 100-200mg of Test per week with oral Winn’s... correct me if I’m wrong.

If this is the case, then you’d run it and then run PCT (timing) based on the ester of the injectable Test you’re running.

If you are on TRT all the time and you want to add a 6 week Winstrol and TRT cycle in, then no PCT is needed.

In either case, it’s a pretty weird cycle setup at 6 weeks anyway and you’d come away with little imo, in terms of change in body comp.

Like @MisterSuperGod said, all liver support is bullshit. There is no justifiable evidence that you can take something to “protect your liver” while taking a compound that effects it. Just don’t waste your money, short enough cycles (4-6 weeks on an oral) and your liver will be fine, if you are healthy in general
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Hey man I'm on 110mg/wk (I know weird number) Test Cyp indefinitely. I have oral winny on hand and was thinking about 25mg/day for just 6 weeks but maybe longer. I've had high liver enzymes show on bloods in the past and can't run a real cycle because I'm not 100%. I tore my labrum in my shoulder but I'm nearly fully recovered as im litterally just a few weeks out from being allowed to go 100%. I'm just getting antsy and want to run something with my newly prescribed (2 months ago) TRT and I don't want to fuck with an AI until I can benefit from a proper cycle.
 
FiEnD said:
Hey man I'm on 110mg/wk (I know weird number) Test Cyp indefinitely. I have oral winny on hand and was thinking about 25mg/day for just 6 weeks but maybe longer. I've had high liver enzymes show on bloods in the past and can't run a real cycle because I'm not 100%. I tore my labrum in my shoulder but I'm nearly fully recovered as im litterally just a few weeks out from being allowed to go 100%. I'm just getting antsy and want to run something with my newly prescribed (2 months ago) TRT and I don't want to fuck with an AI until I can benefit from a proper cycle.
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Throw 250mg deca for 4 weeks. Will shine with low dose test
 
FiEnD said:
Hey guys how would you recommend running an oral Winstrol with TRT? 6 weeks and then a PCT? I'd imagine a liver support should be enough and if so when would I start and for how long since it won't be a typical "cycle" and the winny has short half life so i imagine I won't have to wait 6 weeks right?
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Not advice, but In a perfect world, personally if I ran winny,

I'd incorporate into my macros
A couple tbs of quality liquid fish oil like Carlson, Nordic Natural or SFH (2-3tsp on this brand, its rocket fuel octane)
100% grass fed beef swapped out for conventional.
Cut out peanut butter and vegetable or high omega 6 or polyunsaturated oil fat sources.
Cut out sugar, wheat or milk or processed foods with processed carb or fats in them.

MAYBE h keep carbs around workouts and bed (for sleep) to keep insulin low to further help triglycerides and cholesterol.

Just to keep that HDL cholesterol maxed the fuck out and I mean that's pretty thorough.
That's what I would do.


I heard Rand McClain state in a Muscle Insider QA that he had patients come back with and HDL of 4 after takin Winstrol. From what I can recollect, it's just about the most harmful PED in terms of effects on cholesterol, therefore cardiovascular system. Cough heart attack from peripheral damage to arteries accumulating over time from blasts.

Reread that 3 times bro lol.

But it HDL back in a reasonably short time period I forget when he stated post winny.

Personally I ran test at 500mg for 24 weeks my first cycle and Tren and eq 350/600 for another 12 and 16 weeks respectively.
After 8 weeks off on a cruise 250 my HDL was back to 65.

Who the fuck knows what it was on cycle though, and I'm not even 25 yet.

I'm gonna say this unashamedly,
People that say steroids have not been proven to be linked to increase risk of mortality are just full of it.

WE ALL DAMN WELL KNOW WHAT STEROIDS DO TO CHOLESTEROL.

They generally jack up LDL and crush HDL.

I just wish it could be the opposite.

Pin a gram of Tren and take a 16 week cycle of 60mg anavar and 150 oral primo and come back with an HDL reading of 85.

A boy can dream...
 
I said why. I have winstrol on hand and I'm not cleared to lift heavy. I don't lift to get huge anyways. I compete in combat sports and have to stay within a certain weight bracket. I will not run Tren
 
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