[pharmacomlabs] Test E/T-bol cycle [12OCT17]

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

Hello all, im new and theres more back story if you need it, but basically been doing my research and putting together my first real cycle. Age: 24 height: 5'11" weight: 198@17-20%bf. Looking at running Pharmacom US Test E/ kickstarted with T-bol. Will run as follows;

Test E@250mg 2X/week for 12 weeks
Kickstart with Tbol@40-60mg a day wk1-5.
Arimidex on hand if needed and will start HCG week 02@200iu E3D.
Chlomid for PCT wk 13-16 100/75/50/50
TUDCA for organs, niacin&potassium for BP
Currently running t4 as doctors orders. :/

Goal for this cycle is to ultimately feel better. Will post labs later but my test has been decently low. Like 310@ 7am, so im looking to get back energy and strength, and overall just really feel like a man again without starting trt at 24. I realise there are other routes that i could have gone but this is the one i chose. Any insight or constructive criticism is greatly appreciated. Let me know what you guys think,Thanks!

 

[hydro23]

Hello all, im new and theres more back story if you need it, but basically been doing my research and putting together my first real cycle. Age: 24 height: 5'11" weight: 198@17-20%bf. Looking at running Pharmacom US Test E/ kickstarted with T-bol. Will run as follows;

Test E@250mg 2X/week for 12 weeks
Kickstart with Tbol@40-60mg a day wk1-5.
Arimidex on hand if needed and will start HCG week 02@200iu E3D.
Chlomid for PCT wk 13-16 100/75/50/50
TUDCA for organs, niacin&potassium for BP
Currently running t4 as doctors orders. :/

Goal for this cycle is to ultimately feel better. Will post labs later but my test has been decently low. Like 310@ 7am, so im looking to get back energy and strength, and overall just really feel like a man again without starting trt at 24. I realise there are other routes that i could have gone but this is the one i chose. Any insight or constructive criticism is greatly appreciated. Let me know what you guys think,Thanks!

Let me see if I understand this correctly, you are 24 and have naturally low test. You don't want to be on trt but are willing to do steroids to feel better. So when you come off, you are going to feel exactly how you are now. This makes no sense.

I am sure other members can chime in also.

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

Let me see if I understand this correctly, you are 24 and have naturally low test. You don't want to be on trt but are willing to do steroids to feel better. So when you come off, you are going to feel exactly how you are now. This makes no sense.

I am sure other members can chime in also.

Its not that i dont want to be on trt. I havent found a doc who will put me on. Im consistently 10points from 250 so they say im fine. No offense but honestly why does everyone jump on here with that mess and im watching another thread with a 22 yr old dude and because hes shredded everyones like "oh fuck yeah" "right on mate" "excited to see this progress" when all im tryna do is feel better and ppl are on here like of fuck this dumbass hes stupid. Im already at the bottom? Why would i care about a cycle??

 

[hydro23]

Its not that i dont want to be on trt. I havent found a doc who will put me on. Im consistently 10points from 250 so they say im fine. No offense but honestly why does everyone jump on here with that mess and im watching another thread with a 22 yr old dude and because hes shredded everyones like "oh fuck yeah" "right on mate" "excited to see this progress" when all im tryna do is feel better and ppl are on here like of fuck this dumbass hes stupid. Im already at the bottom? Why would i care about a cycle??

Might just need to search around for a doc, they are out there, unfortunately there are a TON of bad ones. Trust me, I went to 3 doctors before i found the right one.

Honestly, do I think a cycle to make you feel better is good? No.
Do I think you should start off on a TRT dose and see how you feel? Yeah, maybe

Also depends on what is causing the issue of the low T.

 

[CJames]

Don't u have some pictures? (No homo) but I'm curious.

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

Don't u have some pictures? (No homo) but I'm curious.

Yeah i will once im ready to start cycle been trying to lean up a little more before hand.

 

[CJames]

Yeah i will once im ready to start cycle been trying to lean up a little more before hand.

Oh, how much do you weight now?

 

[EcpertRealistic]

I would run Turinabol along 100mgs of test. You not going to lean running that much test.
You need to run lean compounds along low test base.

Turinabol
Masteron
Tren
Winstrol
Deca

 

[EcpertRealistic]

Chlomid for pct wk 13-16 100/75/50/50

That's too much clomid
50 50 25 25 is enough

You need Nolva along with clomid
40 40 20 20

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

Oh, how much do you weight now?

Currently 196.5 in am.

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

That's too much clomid
50 50 25 25 is enough

You need Nolva along with clomid
40 40 20 20

Dont have a source for nolva. Read enough too to see that its a personal preference and pharmacy friends tell me clomid alone is fine, thanks for the constructive input as well! Also havent started cycle yet as ive been trying to lean up some before hand sorry for misunderstanding!

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

I would run Turinabol along 100mgs of test. You not going to lean running that much test.
You need to run lean compounds along low test base.

Turinabol
Masteron
Tren
Winstrol
Deca

On a side note though, what do you think of starting a cycle on low test and tbol to cut up some before upping dose? Random but an interesting thought i guess?

 

[Apexvallen]

Don't listen to ecpert. 500mg test a week is fine.

 

[Apexvallen]

And don't change goals half way through a cycle. If you want to cut, cut. If you want to bulk,m then bulk. If you want to do a cut for the first month and then bulk for the rest, what are you going to accomplish in that month? A few lbs in fat gone. maybe. Probably won't be noticable.

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

And don't change goals half way through a cycle. If you want to cut, cut. If you want to bulk,m then bulk. If you want to do a cut for the first month and then bulk for the rest, what are you going to accomplish in that month? A few lbs in fat gone. maybe. Probably won't be noticable.

Yeah i dont plan on it, as i havent started yet, just tryna get good input from others and go from there

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

May I help you guys here?)

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

May I help you guys here?)

Hey thanks for checking the log, looking at going forward soon with cycle. Only things ive changed so far are the pct date going to start 3.5 weeks after last pin, and dose clomid at 50 for 5 weeks

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

May I help you guys here?)

Though any insight is also appreciated as im sure you know your product better than i.

 

[Pharmacom Helper]

Hey thanks for checking the log, looking at going forward soon with cycle. Only things ive changed so far are the pct date going to start 3.5 weeks after last pin, and dose clomid at 50 for 5 weeks

Hm, you know what... Let's up clomid to 100mg.... It will be more interesting) 50mg also good but little bit not enough...Lab test after 4wk!
Do you know what lab test you need?

 

[Meanstreetscleansheets]

Hm, you know what... Let's up clomid to 100mg.... It will be more interesting) 50mg also good but little bit not enough...Lab test after 4wk!
Do you know what lab test you need?

Im going to do bloodwork through privatemd labs online. Also how would i go about having product tested?