Mast questions

[OldFatAndSlow]

getting ready to kick off again. Finished a Tbol/testC cycle a few months ago(may), which was my first cycle in quite some time. Prior use was 10 or so years ago, stretching some 5 years prior to that.
I’m looking at adding mast to my next cycle for the anti E properties and the reported overall well being effect it seems to have. On top of that I’ve never tried it and I’d like to. I’ve never talked with too many that have used mast though personally. I was looking at running somewhere around:

Dbol
5wks
400/600
testE/mastE
14 wks

Discuss...

 

[legendary]

Do it!!! I'll never ever run without mast again. But as @ChestRockwell informed I would add prostate to your mid cycle bloods. Only oral I can tolerate is anavar so I don't do orals. All ugl var I ran compared to pharm has been a waste. The mast will make you nice and hard

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I have been running mast in all my cycles thus far. Granted, I have 4 cycles under me to date. With that said, I pull bloods religiously. I have found my Free Test is always has been higher.
It's is not a replacement for an AI but for me i have run Test as high as 600mg/week with Dbol at 50mg per day, and it kept the bloat at bay and i was able to complete my cycles without the need for an AI. I will say that i believe that i have a very good tolerance to E2.
Your PSA will go back to normal once you get off the gear. I will increase in size, but not to the point that of emergency.
Just my observation from my experience. Oh yeah, added bonus, it may significantly raise you libido; not 100% for everyone, but most brothers will attest to it.
Good luck, and enjoy the ride.

 

[Xlgx]

I like the old school line of thinking. Running test higher to other compounds. Currently on around 500mg test / 400mg mast per week

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I like the old school line of thinking. Running test higher to other compounds. Currently on around 500mg test / 400mg mast per week

Than what’s to point of the other compounds?
Test cam accomplish it all, yes, but keep in mind, all those other compounds are derivatives of Test anyway. That mean they are basically Test, but tweaked to manifest something more specific.
Once you have AAS in you exogenously, your shut down, therefore, let Test function as your base, and allow the other compounds to do what they were intended for, to magnify a particular quality or characteristic of ASS.
Just my humble opinion.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I like the old school line of thinking. Running test higher to other compounds. Currently on around 500mg test / 400mg mast per week

Another thing to keep in mind, today, things are not they way the we’re in the good old days. Test has always been Test. But think of Dbol or Var or Primo...if I’m not mistaken Dbol came in like 5mg pills. What they take, at most 5 pills in the day, that’s 25mg total. Today, you need to take like 50mg a day, some take higher. That tells you that you cannot apply old school thinking in today’s steroid market...the economics and logistic don’t permit.

 

[Xlgx]

Dave Palumbo recommends High test 700mg+, lower anabolics

 

[Inquiring Mind]

Dave Palumbo recommends High test 700mg+, lower anabolics

I like Dave Palumbo..and I can consider him an authority on the subject of AAS, but the again so is Greg Valentino. I think that says it all...some consider Dylan gemelli...these people are a media personalities and their advise and to be taken with a grain of salt. I was the YouTube video associate to you link, bro, he is advocating OVER a gram of just Test per week before other compounds! Think for a second bro. I’m not Dave Palumbo, but I live in the here and now. Respect to “old school” but new school rules!

 

[Xlgx]

Yeah. New school old school it’s whoever you believe in / follow ...

 

[TestiCult]

I just stocked up on 6 vials of (what I hope to be legit) Masteron 200mg/ml. Looking forward to it, as my receptors have not had the pleasure of binding with these molecules yet... I did wake up with a kickstand of a boner this morning

 

[OldFatAndSlow]

Ya, the more I read, I may flip those doses. 600 test and 400 mast wk, with 50mg dbol daily.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

Ya, the more I read, I may flip those doses. 600 test and 400 mast wk, with 50mg dbol daily.

Make sure you read on affects of high does of Test has on tendons while your at it.

 

[Docd187123]

Make sure you read on affects of high does of Test has on tendons while your at it.

600mg isn't really that high of a dose though, not much of a difference between 400mg and 600mg, plus, most AAS will have a negative impact on tendon health.

 

[Docd187123]

Make sure you read on affects of high does of Test has on tendons while your at it.

Just to further clarify my position, I'm not opposed to running low test and high something else if that's what the user finds is best for them, although my personal preference is just simply... High everything

 

[OldFatAndSlow]

I’ve had enough cycles to know that I get creaky shoulders and elbows around 600+
My last cycle started at 600 then tapered up around 740 testC before dropping back to 500 to finish.
The 600 test I know I’ll be fine with, I’ve just never ran mast.

If all goes well, next cycle I’ll probably go test/mast/tren 400/400/200

 

[Inquiring Mind]

Just to further clarify my position, I'm not opposed to running low test and high something else if that's what the user finds is best for them, although my personal preference is just simply... High everything

If I recall correctly, your coming from a power lifter’s perspective? I’m making an assumption, as I don’t know for a fact, that PL may employ higher dose regiment by virtu of their preferred sport, as opposed to BB whole are typically concerned with the aesthetic end result.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

I’ve had enough cycles to know that I get creaky shoulders and elbows around 600+
My last cycle started at 600 then tapered up around 740 testC before dropping back to 500 to finish.
The 600 test I know I’ll be fine with, I’ve just never ran mast.

If all goes well, next cycle I’ll probably go test/mast/tren 400/400/200

I don’t know if you Blast and Cruse, but next time your on cruse or on say TRT dose...get your bloods forn Total and Free...then included some Mast at an equal dose. Do that for say 3 weeks, than run the same blood test..I think you would be pleasantly surprise to see how much Mast can magnify the Test. I’m this regard you just wouldn't require more of Test yet accomplish the same as if your had. But only one way to find out. To each their own.

 

[EcpertRealistic]

The only time mast will lower your estrogen is if you run it by itself because it will lower your Natural test production. If you on trt the E2 lowering effect of mast is minimal at best. And if you running anything above trt dosages or running a high aromatizing compound the effects on estrogen are close to non existent.

 

[Inquiring Mind]

The only time mast will lower your estrogen is if you run it by itself because it will lower your Natural test production. If you on trt the E2 lowering effect of mast is minimal at best. And if you running anything above trt dosages or running a high aromatizing compound the effects on estrogen are close to non existent.

Hey, not trying to be a dick...but I’m not sure if I’m follow correctly, but your first sentence appears to suggest that anyone would actually run Mast alone and no other drug..is that what your saying? If so. I suppose that’s is possible, but why on earth would any one do that?
Any exogenous AAS will shut down your naturally Test production for that matter. Nothing unique about Mast in that regard.

 

[MFMC]

I am actually just starting my first Run with Mast. Keep in mind I am on trt so I basically run 200 mg of test per week year round---- moving up to 400 test/400 mast per week and 50 mg anavar daily--- will do this 8-10 weeks... I am lucky that my body responds very well so Ido not need the higher doeses... I am also 47 so I am always weighing the risks so I do not push my luck.