1st bulk in 5 years

[Maneuvers]

In case you didn't see my previous cycle log, here is an update. Recomp was cut short so I've been cruising on my normal trt. I got down to 194lbs from 202.

This will be my first bulk in 5 years. I was going to run tren but decided to put on more size first. Picked up pharmacom npp to try out.

Test 350 mg/wk
Npp 100mg eod

I may increase the test as I go depending on how I feel on npp.

 

[Bleeding heart]

In case you didn't see my previous cycle log, here is an update. Recomp was cut short so I've been cruising on my normal trt. I got down to 194lbs from 202.

This will be my first bulk in 5 years. I was going to run tren but decided to put on more size first. Picked up pharmacom npp to try out.

Test 350 mg/wk
Npp 100mg eod

I may increase the test as I go depending on how I feel on npp.

It's refreshing to hear someone being responsible and opting to keep with lower doses, and not jumping on the Tren so soon.

 

[Maneuvers]

This pharmacom npp is giving me hardcore pip. Anyone else have this issue with npp or pharmacom products?

 

[Morefyah]

This pharmacom npp is giving me hardcore pip. Anyone else have this issue with npp or pharmacom products?

What’s up brother good luck on your bulk.
It’s funny you say your greeting pip in the NPP it’s what I’m using right now but about to switch over to another next week.

Brother I’ve been blasting that shit for 8 weeks. With no issues!! This morning I blasted 200mg of NPP along with the high concentration mast blend with a topper of Test e past the 3ml mark, haha

1 x 3ml syringe 25 g into vent glute.
200mg NPP
200mg Mast e + 100 Mast P
150mg Test E
so 650 mg of gear all at once and I can’t even feel anything. Again I would only do this in my vent glute.

 

[Maneuvers]

I'm rotating muscles and no matter what I have major soreness for 5 days. It seems to take a day for pain to start at the injection site then it spreads throughout the muscle. Never felt anything like it.

 

[Morefyah]

I'm rotating muscles and no matter what I have major soreness for 5 days. It seems to take a day for pain to start at the injection site then it spreads throughout the muscle. Never felt anything like it.

That’s so weird! I’ve only been pinning for 5 years and have still never injected my quads. I’ve learned that things like test p, Tren, any kind of tne or Tren base don’t feel that great when injected into the delt and need to be cut with gso to reduce pip.

As far as my glutes it’s the same as my delts just not as sensitive and capable of holding much more oil. some gear just needs to be cut especially high concentration.
I’m not sure if youve only pinned your delts and quads but honestly NPP shouldn’t be causing much pip especially in the glutes.

 

[Maneuvers]

That’s so weird! I’ve only been pinning for 5 years and have still never injected my quads. I’ve learned that things like test p, Tren, any kind of tne or Tren base don’t feel that great when injected into the delt and need to be cut with gso to reduce pip.

As far as my glutes it’s the same as my delts just not as sensitive and capable of holding much more oil. some gear just needs to be cut especially high concentration.
I’m not sure if youve only pinned your delts and quads but honestly NPP shouldn’t be causing much pip especially in the glutes.

I know that's why I'm questioning the gear. Never had pain like this before. It even hurts in the glutes. I may switch brands to compare before continuing the pharmacom

 

[Morefyah]

I know that's why I'm questioning the gear. Never had pain like this before. It even hurts in the glutes. I may switch brands to compare before continuing the pharmacom

Did you buy it from basicstero or a reseller?
I’ve used PC off and and on over the years and have never had any issues. Like I said I was pinning PC NPP for the last 8 weeks and have been pinning close 800mg a week the last couple weeks and at 200mg a shot again with no issues.

 

[Maneuvers]

Did you buy it from basicstero or a reseller?
I’ve used PC off and and on over the years and have never had any issues. Like I said I was pinning PC NPP for the last 8 weeks and have been pinning close 800mg a week the last couple weeks and at 200mg a shot again with no issues.

Basicstero. I'm thinking about contacting them right now actually.

 

[Morefyah]

Basicstero. I'm thinking about contacting them right now actually.

Unless it’s a bad batch and there getting multiple complaints about the NPP, I doubt they’ll do anything for you. They’ll prob tell you to inject less or cut it with gso like I recommended. I’m still not sure why my NPP from basic was smooth like butter even injecting 200mg a pop and your having issues? Maybe start a thread specifically about basic’s NPP and see if others are experiencing the pip that you are.

If there isn’t anyone else having these issues with there NPP then obviously it’s just your personal reaction and you might just need to use another compound.

 

[Rockclimber]

The NPP I brewed up is completely painless. My guess is there is too much benzyl alcohol in the pharmacom brew. I never go over 2% BA. Or perhaps you are just new to pinning this much volume and your muscles will take a while to adapt. My vote is to not contact them and to just finish out your cycle. Eventually you'll start to brew your own and it will be completely painless.

 

[Maneuvers]

The NPP I brewed up is completely painless. My guess is there is too much benzyl alcohol in the pharmacom brew. I never go over 2% BA. Or perhaps you are just new to pinning this much volume and your muscles will take a while to adapt. My vote is to not contact them and to just finish out your cycle. Eventually you'll start to brew your own and it will be completely painless.

I sent them an email today already. I'm only injecting 1ml eod of 100mg. Going to switch to dragon today and see what happens. I can always go back to it later

 

[Maneuvers]

Gave the dragon injection a couple of days now to see and zero pip. Definitely something going on with the pharmacom gear. Must be too much alcohol I guess. Not feeling anything yet and I’m on week 3. Gained 2 lbs tho.

 

[Dr. Savage]

Just 150mg test p and 130 npp EOD and loved the gains. Very clean gains (depending on diet). I was up 5 pounds within two weeks

 

[Maneuvers]

It's week 4 and I'm up 4 lbs. seems like I've gained fat though. I've had a stash of old (10 yrs) British dragon dbol that I've been saving for a rainy day and so I said f it and started taking it today. 30mg with my meal before the workout. Not much strength gains at all. Seriously questioning my npp quality!

 

[Maneuvers]

I'm done with pharmacom. I know people have raved here about it and all the lab tests come out good but I can't take the pain any longer. Maybe I got a bad batch? They told me to dilute it but I shouldn't have to cut it with oil. I mixed it with my regular test trt shot and it still was sore in the glute. It hurts at the injection site the next day and then spreads and travels away over the next 3. Same thing everytime no matter where I pin. Switching to tren and keeping the dbol going for a few weeks.